Creative Premedical Scholars program

<p>Hi! I have been accepted to Tulane and recently found out about the Creative Premedical Scholars program. I did some research online and it seems pretty challenging, but it's something I am very interested in. I was just wondering if there are any stats available about this program, such as the number of applicants or the number of current students who are Creative Premedical scholars. Also, if anyone has insight to share about this program (like was it hard to fit in all required courses by end of soph. year?) that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!</p>

<p>lane4-
I wish I could remember the stats off the top of my head, but I can't. What I do recall is that many students declare that they are doing this, but also many don't follow through. My s is still on track to do this, but the tricky thing in addition to getting in all the med school prereqs and required core courses is that you have to major in something OTHER than a science to do the creative scholars program. The person he did an overhight with last year is doing the creative scholars -- he's the one who gave me the stats but again, I apologize that I cant recall how many were declaring that theywere pursiung it.</p>

<p>Basically, it requires a 3.6 (anything above is awesome), 15 hours a semester (not tough at all), and a non-science major. Most of the people I know who do this go with Psych or Anthropology, but some even go with dance, studio art, and theatre.</p>

<p>I wouldn't know the exact stats, but I'd guess that less than 40 apply. Not many people fit the requirements, or they're already in a science major.</p>

<p>My son did the program, and as I recall, there were not many who actually followed through and interviewed. He created his own major, based partly on neuroscience. His interview was a beast -- much harder than Harvard, Wash U, USCF Columbia, or UCSD med. school interviews (my guess was they wanted to take his ego down a few notches.)</p>

<p>He had no trouble fitting in the pre-meds, even during the Katrina year. He was accepted at Tulane med, but after the loss of Charity Hospitla, he decided to go elsewhere.</p>

<p>Hope that helps.</p>

<p>i am curious about the selectivity of the program. are all students with a 3.6+ and a nonscience major who complete the med prereqs admitted? or is it a competitive process?</p>

<p>one more question- do students who choose this program usually minor in biology or chem?</p>

<p>It's still competitive. You have to take the pre-med stuff anyway, so you could pick up my a minor by taking a few classes beyond it.</p>

<p>Double/triple majoring is very common for everyone.</p>

<p>so do you still spend 4 years at tulane and just secure a spot in med school or do you go to med school after your sophmore year?</p>

<p>Yes, you complete your four years at Tulane.</p>

<p>At the first Honors Weekend, there was a presentation about TAP-TP. One of the speaking faculty members said that during the last Creative Scholars admissions cycle, about 16-19 students applied and ā€œmost of themā€ got in. </p>

<p>Creative Medical Scholars is something that Iā€™m really interested in pursuing, but Iā€™m not certain about the Tulane School of Medicine. Does anyone know about Tulaneā€™s med school? I know that the med classes are pass/fail and students rarely drop out. Is that normal for med schools?</p>

<p>Reminds me of the old joke. What do you call someone who finished last in his med school class?</p>

<p>Doctor.</p>

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<p>I donā€™t know about the pass/fail part, but dropping out is fairly rare. Once you are in, med schools will try very very hard to keep you because they have made a significant investment in you already.</p>

<p>As far as I know, Tulane med has a good reputation, but not an area I follow.</p>

<p>Almost all medical schools have gone to a pass/fail for the first year, and a fair number are also pass/fail for the second year as well.</p>

<p>Unlike law school, there is no ā€œweeding outā€ philosophy or process. Those students who leave normally do so for purely personal reasons: family, health, etc. I cannot speak for all medical schools, but the one my son attends seems to take great care to insure that all of their students are happy and successful.</p>

<p>Rankings aside, Tulane Med has a very good reputation, albeit a larger entering class than some schools. But never lose sight of the fact that getting into ANY US based medical school is a great achievement given the competition, and a school like Tulane Med. with its history and reputation, is a pretty big accomplishment
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<p>I tried to drop out of medical school after the first quarter and it was not easy. They made me meet with a psychiatrist and ended up having me take a leave of absence which I happily took. The next fall, I began receiving orientation materials again even though I had already enrolled in law school! Had to call them up and tell them I was really not coming back. And I have never regretted leaving. The whole ā€œgetting into medical schoolā€ is a huge deal and it is very exciting when you do. But the reality is that it is a major life commitment and most of the students at my school had taken a couple of years off, and at the time, I really wished I had done the same. I still remember people trying to convince me that I could do things with my MD other than be a doctor. Like what, work for an insurance company?</p>

<p>Pretty much a program for kids who canā€™t cut it in the science/taking mcat departments and allows said kids to get into med school without taking science classes or the mcat. If youā€™re too scared to take the mcat, or have a sub-par aptitude in science, this program is for you.
Basically a way for Tulane to attract kids to attending their medical school who probably couldnā€™t get in otherwise, thereby earning an annual 50k per student.
Seriously, what kind of program discourages someone who wants to be a doctor from taking courses like Pharmacology, Embryology, Histology, Developmental Biology, etc. Because if I was a patient or even a different medical school, I would totally want someone who majored in danceā€¦</p>

<p>If your dance major can take a freshman year of Biology, Chemistry, and a foriegn language, then a year of O Chem, Physics, and Calculus, and still have a 3.6 or better then they are probably a good candidate for this program.</p>

<p>Fully realizing that cambridgedan is either an old flamer under a new name or an unwelcome addition to these loathsome ranks, his erroneous assertions must nevertheless be repudiated.</p>

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Pretty much a program for kids who canā€™t cut it in the science/taking mcat departments and allows said kids to get into med school without taking science classes or the mcat.<a href=ā€œEmphasis%20mineā€>/quote</a></p>

<p>30 seconds on the internet reveals:</p>

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<p>So about a quarter of their courses by the time they apply for the program have to have been in these sciences, and most likely a calculus course as well. If they had no aptitude for these areas, they would most likely not have a 3.6 and most certainly would not be accepted. There are literally hundreds of non-science majors that get accepted into medical schools such as Harvard, Johns Hopkins, etc. via the usual time-table admission process that took no more than these minimum requirements and got into med school. The only difference is they took the MCAT.</p>

<p>In all that wordly knowledge that cambridgedan is obviously accumulating, he would do well to research the fact that any number of our most preeminent physicians, scientists and mathematicians throughout history have also been superior artists, whether that be music, painting, or other art forms.</p>

<p>I always wonder why a person like that feels some need to come on a site that they have no apparent affiliation with and make a complete fool of themselves. Ah, the anonymity of the internet.</p>

<p>3.95 gpa, double majoring in cell molec and classical studies, work two jobs, and yep Iā€™m not scared to take the mcat, I know Iā€™ll ace it. And yeah, taking general biology is about as intellectually stimulating as watching ā€˜the last songā€™.</p>

<p>Dont feed the ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– , fallenchemist</p>

<p>Donā€™t plan to. After all, everyone is Einstein and Salk rolled into one on the internet.</p>

<p>yes, you would love to think that. Everyoneā€™s a liar on the internet. But Iā€™m no einstein. I just manage to maintain to a rigorous schedule and high gpa, while holding the responsibility of two jobs. Half of the kids, if not more, at tulane wouldnā€™t even know what a w-2 form is.
Iā€™d love to discuss the nature of the program in less abrasive terms, if youā€™re willing. My discontent with it is genuine.</p>