<p>Several top notch schools offer creative writing problems. Since I plan to major in an area involving a similar program, i was curious, (once again) as to how Princeton's program compared to other closesly ranked schools. Obviously such programs differ and vary in their own ways, but to your personal preference and knowledge, which school has the best? </p>
<p>Thanks, yet again for taking the time to read.</p>
<p>This is something I've been wondering as well. Anyone?</p>
<p>don't know that much about it, but princeton's is definitely one of the best...professors probably set the program apart: tony morrison, joyce carol oates, c.k. williams
not sure if morrison actually is teaching any courses right now (other than the Atelier, a course to develop and perfect a creative work...choreography, play, piece of writing, etc...)</p>
<p>Thanks again guys, and I must say it would be aweome studying under proffesors like them... In particular, how does Princeton compare to Stanford in this area?</p>
<p>gosh i dunno.</p>
<p>i mean, yes Pton and Stanford are amazing schools, must the fact that CW isn't a full MAJOR (just a certificate) to me doesn't equate with other schools who offer it as a full Major.</p>
<p>this is just my opinion, as I plan to do english/cw</p>
<p>There is no such thing as "just" a certificate at Princeton. If you take a look at the requirements for a certificate in just about any department or program (the creative writing program's new website is, sadly, vague on this particular topic), you will see that students take as many courses for a certificate as they do for a major. What differentiates a major from a certificate is, in most cases, that the former requires a thesis. </p>
<p>Creative writing students, many of them but certainly not all English majors, may apply to do a creative thesis. Quite a few in recent years, most notably Jonathan Safran Foer, have had these published. Creative writing is a program in which courses are all pass/fail, workshop classes are very small (around 12), students are highly motivated, professors are world-class, and guest authors and poets come to give readings on a regular basis. What's not to like?</p>
<p>Wish I could go back to school...;)</p>
<p>just about the certificate vs. major-- they really arent that different, and for most certificates you DO have to write a thesis, that atleast applies to the topic. Which means that if you're majoring in English with a creative writing certificate, you can only write one thesis that covers both. However, if you were to say major in molbio with a creative writing certificate, in all likelihood youd have to write two thesis. At princeton you can't double major, so certificates are ways to basically double major. They require more classes and more work than minors at other schools. Also, princeton tends to not like to add majors, so many of the new things are certificates.</p>
<p>Oh, thats pretty cool. And considering that only about 9% of Princeton's applicants choose to major in English, (at least I believe so) It would be pretty nice to have a small class like that. Does majoring in English give you a better chance at being accepted to Princeton? Has anyone actually experienced a creative writing program? Also, is it a signifigant loss being a cetificate rather than a major, or should I just overlook that fact?</p>
<p>I can't imagine that majoring in English would help you in admissions. The university put out a booklet encouraging students to major in the less popular departments, and one of those they described as a big department was English, although the English department was upset by that and pointed out that it really isn't all that big -- it has a lot of professors but not a lot of students. Understand that the creative writing program is not the same as the English department. As for your last question, I certainly wouldn't worry that it's a certificate rather than a major.</p>
<p>Ya, Ive been doing a lot of research on it, and I hear its a great overall program... I hope I get the opportunity to try it some day... has anyone majored in English? What classes did you take and how were they?</p>
<p>The English majors I know generally seem thrilled with the department. Haven't really asked, so I don't know their specific reasons.</p>