Crime at Tulane

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<p>I think things are getting a bit overheated on both sides here. Let’s hit reset. If I may:</p>

<p>Caroline - Your first post(s) may have indeed been a well intentioned simple inquiry, but when you lace things with multiple !!! and ??? and the like, by internet standards it raises the temperature. Selectively pulling stories regarding events that have little or nothing to do with Tulane and its students adds to the combustible mix, although a lot of parents that don’t know New Orleans make that mistake. I will just add to what others have said, once you know the layout of the city you would see that the VAST majority of crime occurs in areas well removed from Audubon and Uptown. All cities are like this. Wash U in St. Louis gets this same discussion every year, because the stats for St. Louis are so bad, but Wash U couldn’t be in a nicer area and still be in a city. There are so many examples it is hard to know where to start.</p>

<p>I will also say that if you look at your example of the abduction/rape, it occurred in the wee hours of the morning, in a public park that is safe 99.9% of the time. Now I am absolutely not blaming the victim, but there is the reality that people have to behave in a manner that helps insure their own safety, no matter where they live. This is drilled into students at campuses across the country over and over and over again.</p>

<p>You say you were called a liar. I am having trouble finding where that happened, but I am sorry you feel that way. Jym is right though, it is far more effective to ask a question and get a response rather than start out with a bunch of anecdotes and assumptions you haven’t researched. I am not blaming you for not researching them, it isn’t that easy when you don’t know the area. I am saying you could have approached coming on here as research instead of making conclusions that, as it turns out, are largely incorrect. And to be fair, if you had simply search the Tulane forum with the word crime you would have found the threads I am about to link to pretty easily.</p>

<p>Perhaps because of NOLA’s reputation we are a little too sensitive to this issue. The misperceptions are rampant, and (no fault of yours) it gets a bit tiring addressing them over and over. Here is a fairly recent thread on this issue, which references other older threads:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tulane-university/904315-safety.html?highlight=crime[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tulane-university/904315-safety.html?highlight=crime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I hope that helps. As a father of a Tulane freshman (well, I guess as of today a sophomore) daughter, I would never send my child to a school where I felt the risk was greater by a measureable amount than is generally true in life. There are no bubbles, of course. Tulane will be 61% female in next year’s class, so a lot of people must feel as I do. See what you think after considering all the objective information.</p>

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<p>As far as NOLA being the most murderous city –
Marengo, Iowa population 2522 has had three murders this year, giving them a murder rate of 118 per 100,000. New Orleans doesn’t even come close.</p>

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<p>Which is exactly why they have minimum population requirements before they are considered for the list. By that reasoning whatever they called their first home after leaving Eden would have to be the most murderous “city” of all time when Cane killed Abel. I think in mathematical circles it is called the fallacy of small numbers or something like that.</p>

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<p>fallen – that’s exactly my point – the number of murder’s per capita is in all practicality a pretty meaningless number. These kind of statistics, taken out of context, tell us nothing. Are you more likely to be murdered in Marengo, Iowa then New Orleans? If you look at the hard numbers, yes. But if you consider that all three murders in Marengo were domestic assults, that changes your understanding of you own safety in Marengo. </p>

<p>Likewise, if you factor in that most murders in New Orleans are drug and/or domestic related, most Tulane students should be able to feel safe in New Orleans.</p>

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<p>Absolutely. I hope all of this has helped quell some of the fears about crime in the Big Easy. And for that matter, Iowa. :slight_smile: j/k</p>

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<p>The link you posted above, FC, is a great example of how to ask the question about safety without coming out with accusations and unpleasantries, that may lead to to a les than helpful response

Well worded post.</p>

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<p>Well sorry I looked yesterday but I didnt see a single thread about crime (I still don’t), and instead of just posting a “stupid question” I did some research first so I wouldn’t look totally ignorant.* I only posted a few links and with your experience you should know that ppl who do <em>not</em> back up their points with actual data do not get respect, except maybe here where they are disrespected if they <em>do</em> uh oh I guess if I’m not supposed to use exclamation marks or question marks I shouldn’t use asterisks too?*</p>

<p>And about the common app, I was impressed that tulane has the money to do this.* I don’t see how thats a negative. With all its money Harvard makes all its applicants pay $75 each.* All of you piled on me within just a few minutes of my first post & I didn’t have time to explain and respond to all of the attacks at once.* But I think if it was your daughter or sister who was raped you wouldn’t be making jokes about it.</p>

<p>So, sorry to disagree with you but I still think the hostility and ridicule are unnecessary & unbecoming. I read all the threads on the first page & didn’t see any “troublemakers” so I have no idea what you’re talking about.* My cousin is also considering going to school in Los Angeles & that has me just as worried as New Orleans. She’s only 17.</p>

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<p>Again, look at the links people on this thread have provided. People HAVE responded with helpful posts but you seem to ignore that. Not one person here made any jokes, as you stated, about someone being attacked. If you are looking for helpful responses, they have been provided. If you are not, move along.</p>

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<p>…No, you said “However, building an open fire pit without a permit regardless of your marshmallow situation is also a crime. I think we’ve all learned a valuable lesson here.” (POST #14)</p>

<p>So that wasn’t suppose to be a joke??* I guess not because I don’t think its funny given the circumstances.*</p>

<p>Then* jym626 said "Benedote-
You bring up some excellent points. So, the solution to getting the police to come quickly is to build a bonfire. Brilliant idea! "</p>

<p>Yes, very helpful, just like the other person who said* a small town in Iowa is more dangerious than in New Orleans.* I looked at the link I was sent to and it was* just another person asking about the safety situation and getting attacked for it. ** The FBI stats are wrong but you guys are right. ** I guess this forum is just a self-congratulation society.*</p>

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<p>Nevermind.</p>

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<p>Caroline - Calm down. We kinda threw out an olive branch there and I gave you the links. You really sound a bit hysterical. I didn’t pile on you in the least. I calmly and quietly explained how it can come across. Accept it or don’t, but you aren’t furthering any substantive conversation with post #27. Frankly I never had any idea what the free app had to do with the topic in the least, but let’s not dwell on that. Do you want to discuss what you read in my links or not? If so, great, let’s discuss the crime situation in New Orleans and around Tulane. It does exist, it just isn’t comparable to crime in New Orleans in general. No one said the FBI stats are wrong, the question is which stats are relevant. New Orleans is a big place, and crime stats vary a huge amount by parts of the city. If you are going to go by FBI crime stats for a city, then she can’t go to any urban area school. You have to be a little more discerning about reading the statistics than that. The point about limited numbers is a valid one. Right now UVA is the campus murder capital of the country. Doesn’t prove anything.</p>

<p>Kids have to be smart about their surroundings. Better to learn some of the ropes slowly in the relatively safe environment of a Tulane than to be thrown into it suddenly when they get their first job and are really on their own.</p>

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<p>The original post of mine was a listing of the most dangerous cities in 2009 published in Forbes Magazine. It was created using the FBI’s violent crime stats. So I’m not sure how that was unhelpful. I then posted a link to the most ‘dangerous’ college towns. So I’m unsure how that was unhelpful. </p>

<p>Finally and Again, the joke I made had nothing to do with someone being attacked. I think you need to read everyone’s posts and THEN ascertain what people are saying. You’ll find that everyone that has posted on this thread has sought to provide helpful advice and/or links to stats to alleviate your fears.</p>

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<p>If your point here was to find information about how safe the city is compared to others, you’ve been given that information. </p>

<p>On the other hand, if your point here was to waste everyone’s time, I don’t think you’ve been too successful. Those that have legitimately searched for info on Tulane and were themselves ACTUALLY concerned about issues such as crime have been provided with national statistics that show the relative crime in New Orleans and at Tulane. </p>

<p>So, I hope we’ve been helpful to you. If not, then I hope those that had legitimate concerns have at least garnered some useful information despite your inability or unwillingness to do so. Best of luck to you and your cousin.</p>

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<p>Charleston, SC??? say it isn’t so…isn’t that (and NOLA) two of Travel and Leisure’s best US cities to visit???</p>

<p>I guess Forbes didn’t check with them before publishing…</p>