<p>I've heard that none of the profs at yale actually live in that area because there is a really high crime rate, and that many scary things happen over there. Is it actually as scary as people believe?</p>
<p>No, it is not. There are always stories here and there and it is a city, but it isn't so incredibly bad. </p>
<p>New Haven has improved greatly over the last few years. But of course, common sense goes a long way.</p>
<p>Here, for example, are the latest reported crime stats for New Haven vs, crime stats for Cambridge.</p>
<p>Those statistics are skewed, of course, by the generally bad areas of New Haven. The area around Yale isn't nearly as bad.</p>
<p>If crime is really important to you, consider Princeton:</p>
<p>Princeton v. Cambridge - <a href="http://www.bestplaces.net/city/cccrim.aspx?Lcity=3460900&Rcity=2511000&%5B/url%5D">http://www.bestplaces.net/city/cccrim.aspx?Lcity=3460900&Rcity=2511000&</a></p>
<p>Stats for the area code for each school show the same disparity.</p>
<p>Furthermore, serious questions have been raised about the accuracy and completeness of Yales's reported "campus crime" stats.</p>
<p>SEE: <a href="http://www.securityoncampus.org/update/v04n05.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.securityoncampus.org/update/v04n05.html</a></p>
<p>Interesting link. I was indeed going by the previously reported crime report by Yale.</p>
<p>Do you have a link that they were found guilty of reporting falsely? Your link merely provides the claim.</p>
<p>About your previous assertion, the fact is that most crimes are far less prevelant in Ithaca, NY and Hanover, NH than they are in Princeton. So the crime-obsessed applicant might want to consider either Dartmouth or Cornell as as safer alternatives to Yale.</p>
<p>But of course, we can all agree on the conclusion that if one is so wimpy as to be afraid of a few murderous homeless guys, one shouldn't be applying to Yale in the first place. ;)</p>
<p>Certainly New Haven has more than its share of "murderous homeless guys", as you put it, but this ought not be a problem as long as you act sensibly: </p>
<p>(1) never leave campus alone, if you can help it - particularly after dark; </p>
<p>(2) be aware at all times of the location for the nearest blue phone; and </p>
<p>(3) if anyone the least bit suspicious approaches you, scream just as loudly as you can - "police.. POLICE!!" - and run back to your college, where the locked gates will keep you safe from most intruders. </p>
<p>(A tip: while you are running, drop your purse or wallet where your pursuer can see it. He may be satisfied to have your money and credit cards, and decide to spare you bodily harm.)</p>
<p>I've lived in New Haven for 18 years now, and it really isn't bad. Yeah, if you wander into the less friendly areas of town, you might see some things you aren't used to, but downtown New Haven is more than safe. Downtown New Haven, even after dark, isn't really anything to worry about.</p>
<p>Also, many professors live outside New Haven because nice houses in New Haven tend to sell at very high prices.</p>
<p>Prices in the core city of New Haven are far, far lower for comparable properties than they are in outlying suburbs. Professors opt for the suburbs because they are safer. Real estate prices, on the contrary, are far higher in Cambridge than in bordering communities for comparable properties. The average selling price for homes in Cambridge may well be five times the average selling price in New Haven.</p>
<p>No Byerly, large houses near downtown New Haven (the East Rock community) are far more expensive than houses in towns like Hamden, Cheshire, and Woodbridge. There are less favorable neighborhoods a little further from downtown which professors may not live in for their fear of black people. I don't think you know *** you're talking about.</p>
<p>My D is at Yale, and I find Byerly's "rules" pretty amusing - and I don't know of any Yale student who adheres to them. The only thing I'd say is that it's a good idea, if you're leaving the immediate area around Yale at night, to have someone with you. I'd say this about any city. Most kids don't, though. My D runs all over the place by herself, meets kids at all hours, and has learned how to handle herself in an urban environment.</p>
<h1>3 is particulary funny. You have to be joking, right Byerly. Something tells me that if I saw you alone on a street at night, you'd look might 'suspicious.' ;)</h1>
<p>I am quite familiar with New Haven, and apparently more candid than you in assessing the desirability of its housing stock. </p>
<p>Many area would be essentially abandoned were not Yale taking a hand in things, intervening to subsidize acquisition by employees.</p>
<p>I don't agree, Byerly. H and I saw some beautiful homes near the university - out of our price range. The city has its less desirable area, sure, but being from los angeles, I guess I'm used to variety - sometimes within the same zip code.</p>
<p>Kids should visit - this idea that New Haven is so dangerous that you have to "yell POLICE" and drop your bag if you see someone 'suspicious' is comical. And as for the "murderous homeless," the problems I have heard of come from teenagers, often from "the burbs", not the homeless.
I like New Haven. I'd have no problem living there.The prices have really shot up in the last few years. I'd advise kids to look at a real estate section online and type in New Haven, CT. The million dollar + homes within the city wouldn't be million dollar homes if the place were as scary as Byerly likes to make it out to be.</p>
<p>I think that Byerly was being slightly facetious when he made the rules, at least I know I was when I mentioned 'murderous homeless guys"...</p>
<p>I know. :)</p>
<p>Byerly is quoting crime stats for the 06511 zip code, while Yale is in the 06520 zip code. In terms of campus crime, well in this case, Harvard wins. Harvard kids, beware!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stalcommpol.org/data.html#adjust%5B/url%5D">http://www.stalcommpol.org/data.html#adjust</a>
(taken from the crimson homepage which has a nice link!)</p>
<p>Be careful with your ad hominem comments. You have been spoken to about this matter in the past. Stick to the issues, please.</p>