Criminal Records and the Academy

<p>was she a minor or 18 when it happened?? I knew someone who was apprehended for shoplifting got first offender status and after 6 monthes it was dimissed, they were told by judge it is gone like it never happened. Another I know from school was busted for possession same thing applied for fafsa got it as charge was gone after a year of no trouble. these things were gone, or so they say.</p>

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The constitution gives the accused the right to "confront the accuser" so the short answer is yes.

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<p>Yeah. Go ahead and believe that. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>It may apply in criminal cases, but not in others, I'm sorry to say.</p>

<p>DAMN IT! THATS CRAP. I want a beer I mean hell Ill be 23 this fall. That sucks!</p>

<p>"Is the accused informed as to who the accuser is?"--</p>

<p>um, i would think would be pretty darn obvious, considering its the girl he had sex with accusing him. i don't think he's in the dark about that one. it probably isn't difficult to separate them, considering she isn't a firstie. and she definitely wasn't a minor.</p>

<p>I was arrested the summer before going to the Academy at a dave matthews band concert. No charges were filed because the judge realized the Hartford cops were full of crap. </p>

<p>The Academy's admissions board looks at honor very seriously; lying about something on an application or medical records ( like EVER having smoked marijuana or drinking prior to entering service) will make them drop the application without thinking twice.</p>

<p>be honest; they wont hold many of your previous mistakes against you as long as they know you're giving them the truth. </p>

<p>Would you invest a quarter million dollars on a liar? Not being truthful about one thing probably means you're not giving the whole truth somewhere else.</p>

<p>Keep in mind though that having certain things on your criminal record may disqualify you for specific jobs and security clearances. That doesn't mean you should lie, but it does mean you need to watch yourself if you plan on going to an Academy, and play it safe until you get there.</p>

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and play it safe until you get there

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<p>I suggest they play it safe forever....</p>

<p>Well, yes, I meant that, too.</p>

<p>ok yes the quaterback knew his accuser...the only new development is this is going to court martial (the supe actually decides whether to handle it through the academy conduct system or through UCMJ stuff). we all pray that justice is served, and the truth truly comes out.</p>

<p>i have an appointment to west point and when i was 15, i beat a gang member into a coma after he pulled a knife on me. I spent two years in the california youth authority, (the SUPERMAXX of juvies) before going to a foster care home for like a month. then i forged my foster mom's signature and enlisted after taking the GED. i can help anyone with questions if need be.</p>

<p>also- i got my conviction sealed / erased. i had to do a bunch of crap, including lie on some forms. my recruiter was really cool and helped me with a lot of that stuff. i still had to get a waiver cuz it was a felony. since i'm an NCO now, it's all good. west point didn't care, i just told them what happened.</p>

<p>"i got my conviction sealed / erased. i had to do a bunch of crap, including lie on some forms."
ADAitfliesitdies: It sounds as if you have taken some hard knocks in life, but managed to turn things around for the better. Good luck with your future at WP. Did you mean to sound as cavalier about lying as you did in the previous post?</p>

<p>I'm thinking AFA is misrepresenting himself...his story doesn't ring true and his attitude doesn't seem to fit in with what the Academies are looking for in a cadet/mid. Just my proverbial 2 cents.</p>

<p>Hmmm, lets see ADAitfliesitdies: you didn't complete high school (no math past sophomore year), you had a violent felony conviction as a minor and spent and a year at CYA, no high school transcript was submitted, you forged a signature to enlist, your commander refused to fill out your WP paperwork (and laughed at you), you did not receive a nomination, you lied to get your felony conviction sealed/erased, and yet you received a direct appointment?</p>

<p>what about getting suspended after you have your appointment, how does that work</p>

<p>ADAitfliesitdies, should heed Samuel Clemens:</p>

<p>Get your facts first, and then you can
distort them as much as you please.</p>

<p>^ Please oh please tell us that you're not a.k.a Confused23 come back for a haunting. I posted that same exact phrase a few days before the thread did the disappearing act.....</p>

<p>Rugbyrat: same thing happened to me and I'd like some opinions.</p>

<p>Folks, the bottom line is to be honest. They'll find out anyway, and lying will get you in a world of hurt.</p>

<p>USNA understands that kids make stupid mistakes, and takes into account improvements since the incident, as well as the severity of the incident.</p>

<p>No one here is going to be able to give a definitive answer of whether a given incident will be a candidacy-killer or will be overlooked. You have to take your chances with the Admissions Board.</p>

<p>And for those of you who HAVEN'T gotten into trouble, STAY THAT WAY!</p>

<p>yea but what if we had never been in trouble, and then got in trouble after getting an appointment</p>