CSU to CC to UC, how to figure out which classes transfer?

<p>I am pretty sure I am over the unit cap; every units I have taken till now is ~110 semester units (combined from both CSU and CC). There were false hope couple months ago when there was a rumor on college confidential that UCs will do away with unit caps, but sadly it seem like false information.</p>

<p>The 110 semester units is a straight calculation, didn't even considered couple of repeats or which classes indeed transfers. Question now is, how do I go about figuring out which classes actually transfer? On assisst.org if there is no 'articulation agreement' is it safe to assume that the class doesn't transfer, and thus doesn't add towards the unit cap?</p>

<p>Any help would be much appreciated.</p>

<p>If your CCC will use the CSU courses for IGETC certification, then the UCs will simply accept IGETC and not worry about the CSU course transferability. The tricky part is figuring out whether any of the CSU courses will satisfy your major prerequisites.</p>

<p>What rumor was that? At the last UC Counselor Conference (in September) there was talk of implementing a systemwide policy on unit cap. If anything, the UCs will probably tighten the restriction rather than getting rid of it.</p>

<p>As of right now, each UC campus has its own unit cap policy. See <a href=“University of California Counselors”>University of California Counselors, page 14 for more information.</p>

<p>Thank you AskMsSun for the prompt reply.</p>

<p>I’m a bit confused on the IGETC certification part. If I were able to discuss a way to use only some units from CSU to satisfy IGETC requirements with CCC, then it nullifies rest of my previous transcript? If this is relevant, all my courses from the CSU was all basic GE related courses aside from ~3 odd classes.</p>

<p>The rumor I speak of is actually something I have read on this forum <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1337868-policy-4-year-college-transfers-has-been-changed.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1337868-policy-4-year-college-transfers-has-been-changed.html&lt;/a&gt; . Thinking back I think I was being too hopeful.</p>

<p>Also, thank you for the pdf. It establishes a nice guidelines for multiple UC.</p>

<p>I realize it’s best to talk to a counselor so I get into specifics; however, I would like to be as informed as possible before hand.</p>

<p>Each UC will determine whether your CSU courses are transferable after you enroll. For admission evaluation purposes, each UC campus does a quick eval on the fly to determine whether you meet requirements (not the same as actually getting credit for your coursework after you enroll). There are three general requirements you need to meet: GE (IGETC), major prereqs, and minimum unit. The “on the fly” eval will determine whether you meet minimum unit requirement as well as major prereqs (your guess is as good as mine whether any CSU courses will meet major prereqs; it’s probably best for you to do major prereqs at your CCC). IGETC is up to your CCC and UCs accept the IGETC regardless of how your CCC certifies it (whether with only CCC courses or with CSU courses mixed in).</p>

<p>I just added a note to that rumor thread, but I figure I post the link to the presentation I speak of here as well: <a href=“University of California Counselors”>University of California Counselors, slide 8. Looking back at it, I think the restrictions might be loosened just a bit (although you will no longer get away with unlimited CCC units at certain UC campuses). The policy is not finalized yet, but you should keep an eye on it since it might be implemented for Fall 2014.</p>

<p>Again thank you for your prompt reply. I’m sorry to keep asking questions, but as I stand now I think I have 2~3 semesters left to finish major prereqs. If that is the case is it advisable to enroll in a different CCC that offers the TAP program? At this point it seems my best chance is through TAP (that is if I am even eligible).</p>

<p>Most TAP CCCs offer majority of the Honors courses in general education, not major prereqs. Find out what Honors courses are offered at the TAP CCCs before you go or else you are setting yourself up for more headaches.</p>

<p>Another question on unit limitation for UC Berkeley…I read this on UC Berkeley’s College of Engineering page ( [Prospective</a> Transfer FAQ — UC Berkeley College of Engineering](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/prospective-students-archived033012/admissions/transfer-faq.html]Prospective”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/prospective-students-archived033012/admissions/transfer-faq.html) ).</p>

<p>"8. How many units will I be able to transfer from my school?</p>

<p>Students can transfer a maximum of 70 units from a community college; they may also receive subject credit for courses taken at a community college beyond the 70 unit maximum. Students who attend a four-year college may have all units transferred, however, earning units at four-year colleges (or in programs combining community college and four-year college credit) could result in excess units that can affect transfer eligibility. Applicants with 89 or more semester units from a four-year institution or those who complete coursework at a community college and then transfer to a four-year institution are not eligible for admission to the College of Engineering."</p>

<p>I have only completed ~70 quarter units (~47 semester units) from a four-year school then went on to CC which I have now currently accumulated ~60 transferable semester units. I’m assuming I would still be eligible for I have exceeded 89 semester units during my stay at the four-year school. I would call the admission office, but they aren’t taking calls on Fridays (couldn’t wait^^).</p>

<p>Also…
“The College of Engineering does not consider applicants to be community college students if they have completed a significant amount of coursework at a four-year college.”</p>

<p>By this definition, is ~47 semester units at a 4-year considered significant amount of coursework at a four-year college?</p>

<p>COE looks at combined CCC and 4-year units:

My interpretation is that you need to keep your unit count under 89 semester units, with a maximum of 70 semester CCC UC-transferable units.</p>

<p>I’ve recently spoken with a Berkeley rep, and to my understanding I was correct with my original assumption. However, I will double check to make absolutely sure. Granted even with this information, previously attending a four-year will still negatively affect my transfer possibility.</p>

<p>I’m not sure how sincere the rep was, but after taking a look at my transcripts she said to apply. She did mention that the previous year transfer student with a gpa lower than 3.7 were not admitted (which my gpa is lower than 3.7), however, she goes on great detail that Berkeley looks for ‘well-rounded’ candidates. Berkeley wants students that can demonstrate interests beyond academic, interests that are both related and different from my major. She suggested actual work experience (internship) would be the most beneficial for my major, and other hobbies/activities that shows my other interests will show a sign of ‘well-roundedness.’ She seem to imply that joining most clubs would be a waste of time. She also mentioned in comments section of when putting my grades in to make sure to explain my bad previous transcript, but avoid negative sounding words and shift the focus to my recent grades. Something along the lines of “although my previous transcript has hindered my gpa I have continuously improved myself which shows…;” even though they can see the grade change a comment such as that would be beneficial.</p>

<p>Also, I am grateful for all the responses from AskMsSun. Thank you^^</p>

<p>Was she an admissions staff or a student worker? If you are in SoCal and you spoke to Ana, then you are good.</p>

<p>For engineering, math/science-focused extracurriculars are better than serving food to the homeless (no offense to the homeless). I agree with everything else she said.</p>