<p>Hey guys.</p>
<p>So I'm currently very unhappy at my current CSU school.</p>
<p>I am finishing up a total of 12 units here Fall 2011/Spring 2012.</p>
<p>I am planning on living with my grandparents in Hollywood and attending LACC.</p>
<p>I am avoiding SMC and WLAC because I know too many people that talk about how they're cutting classes/budgets, overcrowding, increasing fees, the list goes on.</p>
<p>My parent's income is terrible, and I would be going to LACC for free with pell grant and cal grant.</p>
<p>I am wondering. Should I take this path?</p>
<p>How difficult would it be for me to get the classes/units I need in order to transfer within 2 years.</p>
<p>How difficult would it be to TAG and transfer to UCSB , or TAP and transfer into UCLA??</p>
<p>I am currently a Business Major.</p>
<p>I'd like to stay in Southern California as it is my hometown.</p>
<p>Also, would there be any conflicts when I'd be transferring over my classes/credits over to a CC and then into a UC???</p>
<p>Please give me detailed answers!!!</p>
<p>I need to have a plan arranged as I will start working this summer and getting ready to move back to West LA.</p>
<p>Thx!</p>
<p>Edit: Also, is the LACC area ghetto? I am not a minority so =</p>
<p>lol @ your edit. jeez.</p>
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<p>Lol I already know about that website. Your answer is no help.</p>
<p>I can answer your last question. From my own personal experience, LACC is very ghetto in comparison to the other LACCD colleges I’ve been to: Pierce, Mission, and Valley. LACC feels like a prison with all the fences around it and it just feels uncomfortable walking through if you’re not used to that area. Being from a much nicer community farther north I couldn’t see myself taking classes there, but that’s just my own bias. I don’t mean to scaremonger, but someone was stabbed and robbed on LACC’s campus less than two years ago. So that coupled with how old and rundown everything looked from the outside (I’ve had people that go there tell me it’s nice inside some buildings) was enough to keep me away. Oh and just to address that insensitive caveat about being a minority, I’m of mixed ethnic minority and I don’t feel safe there, so it obviously has nothing to do with that.
Link to stabbing reported in LA Times:
[L.A</a>. City College student stabbed, robbed of laptop - latimes.com](<a href=“Archive blogs”>Archive blogs)</p>
<p>Classes are going to be difficult to get at any CC around LA, but a lot of classes for the LACCD colleges don’t have wait lists so if you check every day you can usually get into one after someone’s dropped. If you’re just enrolling in their system and are last in line for priority registration, that’s probably the only way you’ll be able to get classes, especially as pre-reqs for a major as popular as yours. I’ve gotten into severals courses that way when I’ve had to register for classes that I didn’t get at my main CC, so you should be able to put a decent schedule together. </p>
<p>Just my personal advice, I’d avoid LACC if you could. LA Valley is right up the 101/170 freeway about 10 miles. It’s a smaller campus, but much nicer and you don’t feel like you’re going to get robbed walking to class at night. In your situation, you’re probably going to have to think about taking classes at multiple CCs if you don’t have priority registration so it’s worth checking out Valley anyway. Glendale Community College is also relatively close within 10 miles and it has a much nicer campus. Classes can be really difficult to get there though because wait list usually run 25+ long. You should get the same exact amount of financial aid at any of the other LACCD colleges and at most colleges in the area. </p>
<p>If you want to attend a UC, going to a CC first is by far your best route. CC students have much higher admit rates that CSU-UC or UC-UC transfers. The articulation agreements make it easy to satisfy all the UC requirements and programs lake TAG and TAP (for non-impacted majors) can almost guarantee admission is certain cases. </p>
<p>The only two conflicts I can see you having are that not all of your CSU units are guaranteed to transfer for credit and that having already enrolled at a CSU, you’re limited to a maximum of 90 units (135 quarter units) before you transfer. Coming from a CC, you can take as many CC units as you want, but once you’ve enrolled at a four year university if you reach 90 units you’ll be ineligible because they’ll consider you a senior level transfer. Also, some UC TAGs require you to have taken all of your units at a CC, I don’t think that’s the case for UCSB so if you take the majority of your units at a CC you should qualify. You should review the TAG requirements regarding four year to CC students at any UC you think you may TAG to just to be sure. Also, contact admissions at the UCs you’re interested in to see what CSU classes will count for credit, so you know what you may have to take over in CC. Otherwise, CC should be a much easier route to a UC and should increase your chances of getting in compared to where you are now. Also Business as UCLA is heavily impacted so get as close to a 4.0 as you can.</p>
<p>seriously man people on CC need to quit hating on LACC.</p>
<p>people get stabbed and shot everywhere and anywhere. just because one person got robbed doesnt mean every LACC student will get robbed. LACC is NOT ghetto. LA Trade Tech is ghetto. Heck, USC is more ghetto because it’s in South Central. LACC isn’t exactly in Beverly Hills but its in a moderately safe part of the city with excellent public transportation options. i have taken night classes every semester i have been here and have never been worried about my safety. (except when walking home cuz i live in the ghetto). also what does not being a minority have to do with anything?</p>
<p>LACC has an honors program which has a TAP agreement with UCLA. LACC, like any other CCC has TAG agreements with all UCs.</p>
<p>if you enroll and LACC and sign up for the EOPS program you are golden – you will be able to register for classes the first day registration starts. because of this, i have never had a problem getting a class.</p>
<p>if you get a significant amount in Pell grants than you more than likely qualify for EOPS.</p>
<p>this is coming from an actual LACC student who has taken classes at the campus.</p>
<p>^Just curious have you been to any other campuses besides LACC? I’ve been to and enrolled at a lot of CCs around LA (most in the SFV and North LA county) and LACC from the outside was the worst. That’s just my experience. Coming from somewhere like Pierce College which is located in a much nicer surrounding area in Woodland Hills, there’s an undeniable discrepancy just in terms of facilities between the two. Maybe, I’m a bit biased because I’ve taken classes at what I’ve felt are a lot nicer CCs (partly because their newer) and in nicer,more affluent areas (more funding from property taxes): GCC in Glendale, Pierce in Woodland Hills, COC in Valencia, so that’s what I compare LACC to and it falls well behind those campuses. </p>
<p>I’m not saying LACC is a horrible CC and no one transfers from there. I just think if you have the option most people would choose some of the nicer/newer CCs that are in the area over LACC. If you live really near that area or have to take classes there I’m sure LACC is a fine option.</p>
<p>I’ve taken classes at Santa Monica College and yes, the campus is cleaner and newer looking compared to LACC, and yes, their grass is green and non-dead. But the quality of the education is the same. Personally I’m not too bothered by the “oldness” of the LACC campus. It was built in the 1920s and it shows. But I’m just there to take classes and study in the library (which is super nice and clean).</p>
<p>It should also be noted that LACC is under the process of being renovated. There’s a Tully’s cafe on campus, a “student union building” (cafeteria etc) being built, and the library and science buildings are brand new. So its gonna look a lot nicer after I leave.</p>
<p>Clint Eastwood and Morgan Freeman graduated from LACC.</p>
<p>^I would say the quality of the “instruction” is fairly uniform. Obviously there are great professors that are tenured at various CCs that teach varying courses where you might get a lot more out of a class at one place than another. There are CCs where certain departments are very strong (i.e. GCC and PCC for the sciences; SMC offers great technical-training, etc), but you’re right the overall quality of the entirety of faculty is relatively similar, especially since in the LACCD many professors teach across multiple CCs. While the quality of instruction is about the same, I can personally say the quality of education, outside of the professor, is NOT equal. </p>
<p>Maybe if you’re accustomed to humanities/social science classes, where you just sit in a classroom and listen to the professor lecture, where you don’t have to interact with any classroom materials outside of your desk, then yes it’s the same. A classroom is a classroom and they all serve the same function, where some are a little nicer than others is irrelevant to what you actually learn. However, when you go from a science class like at Pierce to somewhere like LACC, there’s a clear difference in quality of education. Where at one place you get to sit in an Astronomy class and actually go into a planetarium every day as opposed to just looking at powerpoint slides. Or when you’re in a chemistry class and you get to use brand new equipment, new high speed centrifuges and melt-temp apparatuses that you’d actually see in a research lab, then there’s obviously more benefit at one place over the next. Having to use computer software or equipment that’s decades old because the department at one school can’t afford the most relevant up to date equipment changes the quality of education for the students there. </p>
<p>So the quality of education really isn’t necessarily the same. Nor is the quality of the atmosphere outside of taking classes. It really comes down to personal preference though and what CC’s going to be the best for each individual. But all CC’s definitely aren’t created equal. There’s as much discrepancy between the CCs in California as there is among the CSUs/UCs.</p>
<p>Can I get a straight answer to all my questions please.</p>
<p>I’m not really looking for a CC difference debate thread.</p>
<p>^I took the time to pretty much answer every single question you posted in post #4.
If you need it even more spelled out for you:</p>
<p>Yes, go to a CC if you your goal is transferring to a UC.</p>
<p>As the majority of the people on these boards are CCers here, they’re likely to tell you the same. And those on this board that are CSU-UC/UC-UC transfers can attest to how much more complicated it is when you don’t transfer from a CC.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, what are some non impacted easy majors for UCLA?</p>
<p>I am wondering. Should I take this path?
That’s up to you, if you don’t like the CSU you are attending then might as well.</p>
<p>How difficult would it be for me to get the classes/units I need in order to transfer within 2 years.
You could transfer within 2-years–or it might take longer. The question is how bad do you want it? Are you willing to enroll in multiple CC in order to transfer on time, are you willing to drive the long distance, and etc.</p>
<p>How difficult would it be to TAG and transfer to UCSB , or TAP and transfer into UCLA??
Difficulty depends on your major and how motivated you are. If you are motivated, then you would be able to get it if you make a plan and follow them. UCLA TAP gives you priority–but is not a guarantee. Also, you need to be a honors student for TAP. As long as you stay on task, then you should be able to accomplish it.</p>
<p>I am currently a Business Major.
Note: UCSB does not have a Business Major. They have Economics, Economics and Accounting, and Economics/Mathematics. Note: These you only get admitted to pre-majors. You need to get a “B+” or higher in all these pre-reqs classes or you will be banned permanently from this major. </p>
<p>UCLA, business department is very competitive–literally its fierce competition. In order to be accepted, stats are showing you should have +3.9 GPA in to be admitted.</p>
<p>I’d like to stay in Southern California as it is my hometown.</p>
<p>Also, would there be any conflicts when I’d be transferring over my classes/credits over to a CC and then into a UC???
Some of them might not be able to transfer over to UC, some might. This is where the counselor comes in.</p>
<p>Idk I am kinda still trying to think my life out atm lol.</p>
<p>I am banned from my parent’s home.</p>
<p>I’m moving back to LA within 5 weeks.</p>
<p>I want to transfer.</p>
<p>So many things.</p>
<p>The Non-impacted easy majors to get into are usually the non popular ones. Anthropology, and etc. However, note the professors at UCLA are not easy.</p>
<p>What happens when I go in as a pre major Econ/Accounting in UCSB?</p>
<p>Once you are admitted into pre-major, you need to finish additional pre-reqs that lets you become a full-major once you completed them. The Pre-reqs of becoming a full Economics/Accounting includes finishing all the pre-major classes (Calculus, Statistics, Writing[only available at UC], 4 Economic classes) with minimum of “B+”. Anything lower is a ban from the major.</p>
<p>One of UCSB Economics professor is a Nobel Laureate (He won the Nobel Prize) </p>
<p>I’m also tagged to UCSB, btw.</p>
<p>LACC is in a pretty ghetto area. Not that dangerous but nonetheless a ghetto area. The school looks like it’s decaying tbh. I personally would go to SMC even if it’s more crowded if I were in your shoes.</p>
<p>As far as easy majors for transferring to UCLA. You can look here and determine that yourself. UCLA releases annual stats of the transfer applicants that applied there. </p>
<p>[Profile</a> of Admitted Transfer Students by Major, Fall 2011 - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof11_mjr.htm]Profile”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof11_mjr.htm)</p>
<p>IMO, there’s no true easy major for applying to UCLA. Some majors have less pre-requisites and a lower average admitted GPA stats, but to get admitted I still think you have to demonstrate a decent amount of interest in your field of study through your PS and ECs, etc. And the ones that seem really easy to get into, just don’t seem to have much real world application. So yeah you may choose the easiest major to select for admission to UCLA, but what are you going to do with a Scandinavian Languages degree? </p>
<p>(No disrespect to those applicants that are truly fascinated with all things scandinavian and whose life ambition is to attain the most knowledge about their method of communication)</p>
<p>@dilapidatedmind</p>
<p>Funny you should mention that. Our new science building has an enormous telescope just for the astronomy department. i personally havent used it but its one of those bigass dome-looking ones that they have at places like Griffith Observatory. New science and engineering equipment is a significant part of the campus renewal that is currently ongoing at LACC. Plus, LACC astronomy students go out to the corner of Hollywood and Highland every semester and do “sidewalk astronomy”. How cool is that?</p>
<p>OP, I have addressed all of your questions in my first reply. Sign up for EOPS, TAG with a UC of your choice, join the honors program and you’re good.</p>
<p>@poserbruin</p>
<p>EOPS is the honors program right? And would I be required to take only honors classes?</p>
<p>I really want UCSB.</p>
<p>But getting banned from my major if you don’t get above a B+ on all the pre reqs seems so ugh…</p>