CSULB or CSUF for Business?

<p>Hi, I'm a business major and am trying to decide whether to transfer to California State University Long Beach (CSULB) or California State University Fullerton (CSUF). Is one better than the other? Which has a better business school? Which has better campus life? All suggestions, recommendations, and insights are needed!!! :D Thank you very much.</p>

<p>Everyone is going to tell you that Long Beach is better (which it is), but for business, Fullerton is excellent and is thought highly of by employers in Southern California. Both are commuter schools, so there's not going to be tons going on during the weekends. Less than 10 % of the students (it might be around 5 %) live in campus housing at both schools. Long Beach isn't in the nicest area, but there might be more going on. Have you looked into San Diego State? They also have a good business program and you'd probably have a better social life there.</p>

<p>I would choose CSULB.</p>

<p>Odd how much interest the forums are showing in the CSUs all of the sudden ...</p>

<p>Fullerton, only the uneducated would choose CSULB for business (seriously)</p>

<p>^^^ strange im ucsd and ucla educated. long beach is the better business school. so i find it interesting that you are calling me uneducated. nothing wrong with choosing either school. but long beach has a slightly better rep as well. explain to me why only someone uneducated would choose long beach, when long beach is more difficult to gain admission to than csuf and ranked higher. i guess those with better gpa and sat stats, and those composing college rankings, must be uneducated. but you must be the intelligent one. looks like you got it all figured out. interesting. you must be a csuf student. because i cannot figure out another logical answer in how you are so sure csuf is that much better than csulb in business and how all of us who would choose csulb are uneducated.</p>

<p>Thank you very much everyone for your <em>positive</em> input. I really appreciate it! I know a few people who strongly recommend Fullerton over LB for business. Yet, it seems that LB has an overall better rep. Am I right? LB's program is very impacted compared to Fullerton. What would you go for...better business school or better overall rep? I'm confuzed.</p>

<p>UCSD and UCLA educated means what in relation to long beach and fullerton? </p>

<p>Uneducated refers to your knowledge of these two schools, not your formal education. </p>

<p>Yes it is slightly harder to obtain admissions to long beach, but that means nothing for the business school. Rather the admissions means nothing in this argument. First, neither school is going to look better or worse when applying to graduate programs. So we can leave that factor out. So what do students do after receiving their degree. A. go to graduate school or B. get a job. Fullerton happens to be a major hunting ground for CPA firms. Long Beach is as well, but less students receive offers from big 4 firms (this from information provided by each schools BAP president). Then you have the prominence of alumni, their accessibility and willingness to help students with what they need. In all 3 cases, fullerton excels past long beach. How do i know, well i have actually done a survey for a class about this very topic, in which the survey includes the opinions of students and my own first hand experience. Then you have greater accessibility of the orange county business community. But then what does long beach have over fullerton? A tiny investment fund for students perhaps? But fullerton's business school actually publishes work that is put along side with the elite figures in the business world, Anderson and Marshall, including everything from real estate to the economy. Hmmm, quite interesting isnt it</p>

<p>Quite frankly, I don't think it really matters between these schools. It's going to be more about experience than anything else. I see no advantage in name where a degree from either school will get you an interview over the other on that merit alone.</p>

<p>I dont know much about freshman, but as a transfer (for fullerton), only 50% of students who apply are accepted, over 11k apply and only 5.5k get in, so in essence, the better programs a greatly impacted. </p>

<p>Fullerton or Long Beach, which to have on your diploma..doesnt matter, but fullerton has an extreme advantage with its ties to orange county which is one of the largest business communities in the country, especially irvine which some have estimated will match both san diego and silicon valley in prominence for bio tech/tech. Wonderful thing is Fullerton has a secondary campus right in irvine</p>

<p>OC biotech isn't that large and either is it's tech relatively speaking. Either way, many firms in those industries do not have much use for an entry level business major with the exception of maybe accounting.</p>

<p>"UCSD and UCLA educated means what in relation to long beach and fullerton?"</p>

<p>This meaning i am not uneducated. It has nothing to do with long beach and fullerton. </p>

<p>Secondly, by making a statement that is as stupid as the one you made, infuring that anyone who chooses long beach over fullerton is uneducated is flat out ridiculous. some advice to you, be carefull about your wording next time you make a statement. calling people uneducated because they do not agree with you is in itself stupid. people choose schools for different reasons. and choosing a school, even a lower ranked one or one easier to get into does not make someone uneducated. what i found funnny was that long beach was actually ranked higher and harder to get into. so i have no idea where u even came up with the idea that you could make such a statement as the one you did. </p>

<p>Next, i dont need you lecturing me about big 4 accounting firms and where they recruit. my dad was a partner at deloitte, and is now retired and is a accounting professor. and in his words, big 4 accounting firms dont recruit heavilly from long beach or fullerton. the difference between these schools is very small, with the edge going to long beach. but there is not a big difference. you making such a dumb statement that anyone who chooses long beach over fullerton is uneducated is just so ridiculous i cannot even begin to express how stupid it looks. </p>

<p>"Uneducated refers to your knowledge of these two schools, not your formal education"</p>

<p>really, including that my father is a professor at csulb in accounting and often teaches part time at fullerton and uci, i find it interesting that you are calling me uneducated about these schools. i here plenty about each department, from both him and other professors at both schools. you are in no posiotion to be throwing around statements calling people uneducated about schools because they dont agree with your opinions. stop being a moron and get a life.</p>

<p>bio tech was new to me when i heard, but tech has been growing a lot the last 3-4 years. Startups are huge in irvine, actually huge all the way though lake forest area, just depends on what your looking at, tech or computer services such as graphics, site building, software,etc. You should take a closer look at it. these are obviously companies without a formal hiring process, but they do hire undergrads for jobs outside of accounting and sales. Marketing is in demand in that area from a wide variety of business, as well as business analysts, consultants, etc.</p>

<p>i grew up in coto de caza (oc) i know plenty about oc and bio tech. and if you think oc is as big or going to be as big or important to biotech as san diego and silicon valley, you are totally full of it. i have never seen such a statement made. where did you hear this. or did you make this up. can you please prove to me where you have heard this. that is ridiculous. and while csuf surely has some connections to oc business, csulb will have some connections to los angeles business, which is even larger. just think before you call people uneducated in terms of a school or schools because they dont agree with your views, especially when your views are out of the norm. the tech business is deffiantly growing in oc, especially in irvine and costa mesa, but bio tech as important or soon to be as important as san diego or silicon valley.... not a chance. ridiculous.</p>

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<p>Perhaps you should check into that, if it is preferred why are more students being hired from fullerton. My father this, my father that, stop whining. I am glad that your dad teaches at long beach and fullerton. </p>

<p>So your father is a professor...who might he be, as i have met and talked to several accounting faculty members ranging from assitant profs to deans at 6 different schools, in which 3 of those were UCI, fullerton and long beach. </p>

<p>I am sorry if you cant understand the context in which my post was written, it may have not been clear, but i have explained, so stop complaining</p>

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<p>But see that is the wonderful thing, fullertons connections reach well into LA as well, long beach's doesnt stretch very far over into OC</p>

<p>I have been suprised by reading about bio tech in oc as well (articles have been rampant in local magazines/papers, the la times and actually some san diego papers.</p>

<p>But there has to be serious reason UCI is adding 50 faculty members to help prepare students for careers in bio tech</p>

<p>"But see that is the wonderful thing, fullertons connections reach well into LA as well, long beach's doesnt stretch very far over into OC."</p>

<p>What the hell are you talking about.... where are you getting this from...? fullertons connections stretch well into la, but long beach's dont go far into oc? what the hell? haha can you please provide me information or proof regarding this. not how you have heard this here or there. actually link me an article or information proving this and actually stating this. becuase i think you are a fullerton student or alumni making this up and that you are full of it. im sure others on this board will call you out on these statements saying how fullerton's connections cary into la, but long beaches connections dont cary into oc. haha this is hillarious. these are cal state schools, not ivy league schools. hillarious. </p>

<p>"I have been suprised by reading about bio tech in oc as well (articles have been rampant in local magazines/papers, the la times and actually some san diego papers."</p>

<p>OK. link me where it says oc is as prominant or going to be as prominant as san diego or silicon valley in bio tech.. not something saying it is growing, but something backing up your statement that bio tech in orange county is or is going to be as significant or important as bio tech is in san diego or silicon valley. your statements are just absolutely ridiculous.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sciencesandmedicine/2004/06/07/cz_kd_0607biotechclusters.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.forbes.com/sciencesandmedicine/2004/06/07/cz_kd_0607biotechclusters.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>forbes' top ten for bio tech industries. san diego is number one. if you combined san fran/oakland/san jose together, the bay area would be number one. each one (san fran, oakland, san jose) individually, however, makes the top 10 list. surprise surprise, long beach-los angeles is in the top 10. yet according to your expertise, orange county has, or is soon to surpass the bay area and san diego. interesting. </p>

<p>Forbes: The Top Ten Biotech Clusters</p>

<p>Metro Area Composite Score:</p>

<p>San Diego 100
Boston 95.1
Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill 92.5
San Jose 87.8
Seattle-Bellevue-Everett 83.8
Washington, D.C. 79.4
Philadelphia 76.5
San Francisco 75.8
Oakland 74.3
Los Angeles-Long Beach 66.5</p>

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What the hell are you talking about.... where are you getting this from...? fullertons connections stretch well into la, but long beach's dont go far into oc? what the hell? haha can you please provide me information or proof regarding this. not how you have heard this here or there. actually link me an article or information proving this and actually stating this. becuase i think you are a fullerton student or alumni making this up and that you are full of it. im sure others on this board will call you out on these statements saying how fullerton's connections cary into la, but long beaches connections dont cary into oc. haha this is hillarious. these are cal state schools, not ivy league schools. hillarious.

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<p>Your father works there, have him take a look at their alumni database.</p>

<p>Currently irvine is not number one, that is why i said "will match". Currently Irvine is is the largest hub for medical devices. Its biotech sector has grown 225% in the last six years in orange county and will continue to grow, notable companies in the sector being medtronic, glidwell, beckman, nobel biocare, advanced sterilization, terra, edwards lifesciences, sechrist, etc</p>

<p>Then you say that tech never going to be as big as silicon valley. Obviously it will take time, but just take a look at the companies that are locating here...</p>

<p>The TriZetto Group, Inc. (Software, Newport Beach)
Micro General Corporation (Software, Santa Ana)
Myrient, Inc. (Communications/Networking, Aliso Viejo)
Starbase Corporation (Software, Santa Ana)
Bridge Technology, Inc. (Computer/Peripherals, Garden Grove)
Broadcom Corporation (Communications/Networking, Irvine)
I/O Magic Corporation (Computers/Peripherals, Santa Ana)
Quest Software, Inc. (Software, Irvine)
The Linksys Group, Inc. (Computers/Peripherals, Irvine)
Mission Controls Automation, Inc. (Computers/Peripherals, Irvine)
BIOLASE Technology, Inc. (Medical/Scientific/Technical, San Clemente)
Cardiac Science, Inc. (Life Sciences, Irvine)
Telenetics Corporation (Communications/Networking, Lake Forest)
Endocare, Inc. (Life Sciences, Irvine)
Syagen Technology, Inc. (Medical/Scientific/Technical, Tustin)
Worldwide Wireless Networks (Internet, Orange)
Primal Solutions, Inc. (Software, Irvine)
QLogic Corporation (Semiconductors/Equipment, Aliso Viejo)
DDi Corporation (Telecommunications Equipment, Anaheim)
Sonnet Technologies, Inc. (Computers/Peripherals, Irvine)
Emulex Corporation (Communications/Networking, Costa Mesa)
TCI Solutions, Inc. (Software, Irvine)
Interpore Cross International, Inc. (Life Sciences, Irvine)
Micro Therapeutics, Inc. (Life Sciences, Irvine)</p>

<p>Then you have lucent, verizon communications, broadcom, cisco, kingston, toshiba, cannon, conexant, IDT, interstate, TI, unisys, thousands of web design studios, the auto design cluster, etc etc and it goes on...and these are well known companies, it doesnt inlcude the massive number of startups currently in place</p>

<p>I have the same question :X I think Fullerton is better? But campus life is better at Long Beach? I’m so confused as to where to go ><. I like Fullerton because it has the option to major in Business Admin. with a concentration in Entertainment Management, and I can also double major in Radio-Television-Film. </p>

<p>Yet, Long Beach it’s just one major, the video production opportunities is very limited, etc. etc.</p>

<p>but long beach has a lot more campus life I hear ><.</p>

<p>oyvay.</p>

<p>I think southpas is right. I think that csuf has better connection in OC and is perceived better in LA than csulb. Going to csulb right now and I wish I wasn’t. It is over hyped and has a hurting business program. Also, I though that csulb would have great connects partly because it is between LA and OC, where most of the jobs are. But unfortunately, csulb is a very self centered, ignorant, and arrogant school where the only networking in is in LB. The only companies they talk about are, rayteon, boeing, target and ups. But you can find the job opportunity postings on your own if you look up the corp website or indeed. So you are better off looking up jobs on your own. I don’t know if csuf is better, but the grass looks greener on the other side.</p>