<p>Would be really curious to hear from parents (and students) about how one handles the culture shock (if any) of moving from the East Coast to the West Coast. <em>Is</em> there a big difference in culture? Lifestyle? Intensity? Does weather make that big a difference to people?</p>
<p>DS1 (a junior) is looking at a variety of schools (both coasts and in-between), but hasn't taken much notice of these things. He's been focused more on how each school "fits" him and the programs he's interested in. Is the right vs. left coast thing something he needs to actively think about or since he's generally an adaptable sort who isn't picky about these things, is it OK to let it slide?</p>
<p>FYI -- we have friends out west that we visit every summer, and we camp/travel a lot, so he's been exposed to a lot of different places. Moving 3,000 miles away doesn't seem to faze him. Just wondering if this is something he needs to give serious consideration to in his planning process.</p>
<p>(P.S. I am OK with the distance, though I will miss him tremendously. We told our kids they needed to pick colleges in good vacation areas!) :*)</p>
<p>what part of west coast, because seattle weather is a bit different from San Diego's</p>
<p>And LA is different from SF from Portland, with regards to culture, attitudes, etc</p>
<p>Most likely, one of the biggest difference is that us left coasters are probably more casual in our dress, and we were flipflops alot</p>
<p>I grew up in upstate NY and have lived in Portland Ore and San Francisco....from freezing winters to freezing summers</p>
<p>Don't think there will be much difference, but what is interesting is that my D shows absolutely no interest in attending any California school- none whatsoever- she wants to do east coast, and "worse case" Portland or Seattle as fall backs</p>
<p>I think more of the consideration is the school itself- and something to consider is ease of transportation back east</p>
<p>I grew up in Buffalo, went to college in the East, and grad school in northern California. One of my sisters went to college in California, the other in Arizona; my brother went to college in Buffalo and grad school in Arizona. I would say that I had the hardest time adjusting to the West. It took me almost three weeks. But that was because I was an Eastern snob.</p>
<p>Seriously. It's very nice in California (and elsewhere in the West). That's why people love it so much and keep moving there and staying there.</p>
<p>And people are pretty much people everywhere. Easterners and Californians (and Southerners, and Midwesterners) have much more in common than they have differences.</p>
<p>There are cultural differences all over America. Easterners are not all the same, as I presume westerners are all different. I live in upstate NY and had culture shock in college just by going to school 160 miles downstate.</p>
<p>I grew up traveling. (Father was a diplomat.) The biggest culture shock for me was going from tiny American and International schools overseas to a giant junior high. That said, I spent my high school and college years on the East Coast. My then boyfriend (now husband) did his graduate work at Caltech. I loved every second I lived in Pasadena. I think a lot of it is about attitude. I liked the car culture, I loved the architecture and the landscape. I loved being with driving distance of the beach, the mountains and the desert. I never felt people were either more or less laid back there.</p>
<p>D of our best friends grew up in Maine and is now attending Berkeley. She was surprised by other Californians' perception of Maine -- basically they expected her to be more of a hick. Another D of close friends grew up in California and is now at Madison -- she can't believe how nice everyone is in the midwest. "And I thought Californians are supposed to be friendly" she says. She also thinks the mid-west accent is cute. And then there's my nice, a California girl now at Princeton, who says people there are "go-getters" (which she likes) and "a little arrogant" (which she likes less.)</p>
<p>Note, all these girls are very happy where they're at.</p>
<p>DD grew up on the east coast living in one place most of her life. She is now in college on the west coast. To be honest, the school was her focus...not the location (although she did want warm weather...). I think it was a bigger "culture shock" for DS to go to an urban college 110 miles away than for DD to go to her smaller LAC type school 3000 miles away.</p>
<p>I think the biggest culture shock will be the slang, come up to SF and learn about the hyphy and thizz music, learn to say "hella", and discover we don't have accents, unless to moved here from elsewhere, natives, we could all be TV anchors</p>
<p>Hey...'hella' is a pretty common phrase for the kids here in Texas....'hella this'....'hella that'... CGM...maybe you can tell me...what exactly are the kids trying to say?</p>
<p>I did the reverse: from southern California to the northeast; also, to France. I personally experienced more culture shock between California and Cambridge, Mass than between California and France. I think it will be different for each person, a little bit. There was also an issue of going from a very small town to a city. </p>
<p>The things that I found the most different were the lack of eye contact with strangers on the street in the northeast as compared to California, a stronger sense of class in the northeast and the WEATHER. California is just a much much more fluid, diverse population, which has advantages and disadvantages. I think there is a much greater sense of possibility, openness, innovation here. But there is also less a sense of rootedness/connectedness. </p>
<p>I like the seasons in the east up until you get to the predominant season (winter), and I do not at all like the climate of southern California. To me, northern California is perfect--temperate, clean air, a hint of seasons (good fall colors where we live, and lots of cold and rain in the winter) without the great discomfort. Blossoms on the trees in February and a sun-kissed feeling most of the year.</p>
<p>Really depends on where you're moving to and from. San Fran, for some reason, reminds me a lot of New York (and Chicago). San Diego is tough for a lot of East Coast people (especially New Englanders).</p>
<p>If "fit" is the issue, though, don't worry too much - fit is related to the surrounding area and the student body. Encourage tours and tell him to go with his gut. Also, please understand that students who go to grad school usually do one of three things: go away to college, return for grad school (they miss home and want to settle there); go away to college, go away to grad school (they like their adopted city); or stay home for college, go away to grad school (because they don't really know if they want to stay in their home city and, heck, they are in their 20s and want to see the country before committing to a certain area).</p>
<p>I grew up in Southern California, and have lived in Vancouver, B.C., Minnesota and the Boston area. There are differences, of course, but I felt comfortable in each location after a short period of time. There really are nice people everywhere. </p>
<p>I would imagine that college kids are the same around the country. Unless your son is thinking of attending an in-state school with very few kids from out of state, it almost doesn't matter where he goes to college. My older son attends college in New Hampshire, but has friends from California, Oregon, Washington, Tennesee, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Pakistan and China. (Just those that I've met.) </p>
<p>I think the overall fit of a school is more important than where it's located.</p>
<p>Both S and D went from Greater Boston to SoCal for college. S, now out of school, continues to live and work in LA and has remarked about the Hollywood superficiality of some of the people whom he has met as well as traffic, sprawl, etc. Both kids miss the changing of the season, especially the fall, but have also begun camping, something to which they were vehemently opposed back home when they were younger. ;)</p>
<p>H and I felt it was important for them to attend college in an area that appealed to them. If SoCal was it, at least they would experience a different atmosphere in an environment that was relatively safe (school).</p>
<p>I agree that the fit of the school is much more important than its location, but sometimes the location, e.g., near an ocean, in a sunny clime, can prove to be an asset as well.</p>
<p>Middle son went from northern Cali to Vegas (Vegas BABY!!) then rural NC and is now in New Jersey. His older sis same route except ended up in NM instead of NJ. Both agree the biggest change/difference was the west coast to very rural southern NC. Would make for a great sitcom!</p>
<p>idmom06....just so you know, "hella" means when there is a lot of something, an abundance. LOL as in "there was hella food at that party".
It's funny , my daughter ( we are from the Bay Area) is a freshman at a university in Northern CA, and her suitemates are from San Diego. The SoCal girls have different phraseology than my daughter! You dont have to go far to notice little differences in speech and dress, but as someone else said, people are pretty much people everywhere. What East Coasters and West Coasters have both been acccused of is a certain Bi-Coastal narcissism. I can't really say if there's truth in that or not.</p>
<p>12 years ago, we moved the entire family to the west coast (first CA (very briefly) then WA). I had to learn to talk more slowly (when I called to start up utilities, the person would say "slow down, you must have moved from Boston or New York"), to drink coffee as a social activity (esp. in western WA), and not to assume that everyone was not very religious (keep in mind that 10% of WA residents are Mormon and another good chunk are evangelical Christians (I offended a LOT of people before I learned to keep my mouth shut about religions)). </p>
<p>To keep my kids fluent in both west and east coast culture, I sent them east to summer camps, where they learned that New York is the center of the universe--unless you're from Boston, in which case, Boston is the center of the universe. In any case, to an easterner, California is a distant and foreign country, and Washington (the state) barely registers. </p>
<p>Ever listen to "national" news? Notice that the "flyover states" don't exist, and that we seem to have four states: Virginia/Maryland (as DC bedroom communities, thus politically important), Massachusetts (where the learned authorities and hospital research is done), New York (for financial stuff, and "theater and the arts," and California (for movies and immigrant issues).</p>
<p>Is there culture shock going west to east? Oh yes, and I'd say the easterners are a lot less tolerant about it than the westerners.</p>
<p>I think there would be less of a culture shock for east coasters moving to the west than vice versa. My son went from northern CA to the east and suffered major culture shock (and a little homesickness) for the first semester. He found the students to be more "uptight" and class conscious, generally less tolerant of differences but at the same time more focused.</p>
<p>Having lived in the east coast for the past 6 years, he recently moved to southern CA and also had to readjust, most notably to the congested freeways and the sprawl.He really loves the fact that he can do outdoor activities througout the year and the more casual lifestyle (he wears shorts and flip flops to work unless he has to see clients).</p>
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<p>I agree. I think the West Coast tends to be more culturally-neutral than the older Northeastern areas that have very distinctive personalities and an "edginess" that can be hard to adjust to for sunbelters.</p>
<p>The transition from East to West would probably center around the extreme ethnic diversity in California.</p>