Current Brown students taking questions!

<p>I guess to be more specific, are the dorm rooms co-ed? I’m okay with co-ed floors, but co-ed dorm rooms? I’m not too sure about that…</p>

<p>Chelsea:
The dorms are co-ed by floor, not by room. (With the exception of some upperclassman choosing to live in gender neutral housing.) You won’t be forced into a room with someone of the opposite gender.</p>

<p>Graagh: I’m so happy to hear that. Thank you for answering. :D</p>

<p>There’s a chance that no one knows what I’m talking about, but are there any Chick-Fil-As on campus? There aren’t any listed in Rhode Island, but the one on my high school program/college’s campus isn’t listed on Chick-Fil-A’s website either, so I thought it’d be worth a shot to ask.</p>

<p>Potterpie I don’t think so. I remember asking a student once and she asked me what chick fil a was :frowning: A chipotle did just open up though! But I think restaurants like chick fil a are more likely to be found in southern universities.</p>

<p>I have bee following this thready since quite some time and have a handful questions-</p>

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<li><p>I’m, planning to study the Applied Math-Econ concentration but I also want to study CS. While at the same time I have absolutely NO knowledge of CS/programming so I’d probably want to go for an A.B in CS. Is it possible to do an AB and an Sc.B at the same time?</p></li>
<li><p>Have you come across any people who might come into college with no prior knowledge of CS/Programming and yet ending up majoring in it?</p></li>
<li><p>Can I perhaps go for an A.B is CS (or any other concentration for that matter) and take all my required classes for the same as S/NC.</p></li>
<li><p>Is there a limit on the number of classes taken S/NC each semester?</p></li>
<li><p>How is the COE: Commerce, Organization and Entrepreneurship concentration? Further, how doable is it as a second concentration in addition to Applied Math-Econ? (I’m assuming they would have a lot of common requirements)</p></li>
<li><p>How is the recruiting at Brown? Specially that in the financial sector (ibanks, hedge funds etc.) Is it a target school for the Wall Street firms?</p></li>
<li><p>How far is Providence from NYC? And what are the major modes of transportation between the two cities and the duration of trips and costs? (Asking coz my sister stays&works in NYC)</p></li>
<li><p>How do international students like their time at Brown? I’m from India! Do Indians generally stay in a bubble of their own? (In most colleges where they attend in significant numbers, they generally tend to hang out just among themselves; I certainly wouldn’t want to hang out ONLY with Indians)</p></li>
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<p>I’d appreciate if any of you can answer any of these questions. Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>Not a student, but I can answer some of your questions.</p>

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<li><p>Yes, you can do an AB and ScB, but it’s not easy, it means taking a lot of required classes, and probably means you won’t get to explore a lot of other subjects and take advantage of the Brown curriculum. This has been asked and answered several times in this forum, btw, so if you did a search you’d find different perspectives.</p></li>
<li><p>Yes, there are people who major in CS with no background in it. Many US high schools do not offer any programming classes.</p></li>
<li><p>Are you asking if you can take all your classes within one of your concentrations S/NC? That’s usually not a good idea.</p></li>
<li><p>You theoretically could take every class at Brown S/NC. Although – I would imagine that a dean would eventually catch on and want to discuss it. And your concentration adviser would not be happy.</p></li>
<li><p>Others can be more specific, but Wall Street firms do recruit at Brown and there are Brown grads who work in investment banking. I would probably say that the pipeline is a little narrower than at some other schools.</p></li>
<li><p>Providence is about 3 1/2 hours from NYC. You can take a train or a bus. Google Amtrak and Greyhound and get their prices/schedules. I think there’s a Mega bus or Chinatown busses too that are much cheaper.</p></li>
<li><p>Oh boy, this could get interesting. Some Indians do stick together. Others are determined not to. It’s up to you.</p></li>
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<p>Just to elaborate on 1) You can complete the requirements for an ScB and an AB at the same time, but unless you stay an extra year, you’ll only get the ScB (at least one of your transcript or diploma will say you completed the requirements for both, but no one I’ve talked to has been very clear on that. APMA-Econ requires a programming course, so you could use that to get a sense of whether CS is for you or not.</p>

<p>5) I don’t know much about the concentration, but you’d need to check with both departments about overlapping courses - some departments limit the number of overlapping courses you can apply to the concentration.</p>

<p>@fireandrain,</p>

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<li><p>What I meant to inquire about by points 3/4 was perhaps the possibility of taking some (or in an extreme case, most) courses towards by AB in CS as S/NC. I might want to do this since I hold no prior knowledge in CS whatsoever, and I wouldn’t want to my performance in it to affect my GPA negatively, specially considering that I’ll have an Applied Math-Econ concentration to take care of anyway.</p></li>
<li><p>fireandrain & Uroogla have given me somewhat conflicting answers regarding the possibility of completing and ScB and AB in FOUR years.</p></li>
<li><p>If I am not allowed to pursue both ScB and AB together, how should I go about choosing between the two? How is each degree looked upon by employers, grad schools? (including B-schools and law schools) The choice between ScB and AB is particularly confuding since Brown is one of the few colleges I know which offers a choice between an AB/ScB for almost each of its concentrations. (This is particularly different from other colleges like Harvard for example, where Econ is available only as an AB degree)</p></li>
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<li><p>Both fireandrain & Uroogla are right, even though they sound like their responses are conflicting. Plenty of people double-major in an ScB and an AB, but you only ‘get’ one of the degrees, unless you do the five-year program. This is just a formal matter – your transcript reflects that you graduated with both majors (one ScB and one AB), and you’ll put both of your resume. It’s just a matter of Brown not ‘conferring’ two degrees upon you. You can basically ignore that distinction.</p></li>
<li><p>The reason why recruiting might seem weak at Brown is because people graduating from Brown just do not want those jobs in the same proportions that people graduating from other schools. In my experience, everyone I knew who wanted one of those jobs got one rather easily.</p></li>
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<p>A word of warning: In many social circles at Brown, discussing your anticipated future in iBanking before Junior year is not going to ingratiate you with anyone. The contrast between that and some of the other Ivy League schools is striking, and something you might want to think about. Of course, within COE, there will be no shortage of people to talk to about it.</p>

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<li>The International community is (or at least, was three years ago) very thriving, and Indians make up a big chunk of that group.</li>
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<p>You may take some of the courses S/NC. It’s generally inadvisable to take multiple courses in a concentration S/NC if they’re not mandatory, though (with that said, some students do, and I’ve heard at least some do quite well in grad school placement). Note that Brown does not formally calculate GPA, though most students will calculate their own. With CS, though, many of the courses aren’t incredibly suitable to take S/NC. Departmental policy says that students who do not hand in a sufficiently working version of all programming projects by the end of the course will not pass the class, meaning S/NC won’t really help you there. It may be useful in the theory courses, though.</p>

<p>To reiterate - you can complete an ScB and an AB in 4 years. I’m doing so right now. However, I will receive only 1 official degree - an ScB. This degree will state that I have a degree in Computer Science-Math. My transcript (as far as I am aware) will state that I completed concentrations in Computer Science-Math, and the AB requirements in Classics (Greek and Latin track). It’s a very fine distinction - numerous employers/grad schools/professional schools will see your transcript, so you don’t need both degrees formally (except in cases like Engineering, perhaps, where accreditation is important?). I may be applying to Classics grad school with no formal degree in Classics, and I expect to have no more trouble than my peers.</p>

<p>An ScB is generally seen as stronger (within the field you’re studying, at least) because it requires many more courses, as well as a term of independent research. Some companies (especially in CS) won’t consider AB students for internships (though I’ve noticed them bending that rule for some of my very intelligent peers). If you don’t have an interest in the ScB, don’t do it just because it looks good (you’ll likely end up unhappy and with few electives). There’s little difference between the AB and taking the courses on your own. You will be able to declare both concentrations and get recognition for both, though. You just won’t get 2 degrees in 4 years.</p>

<p>I’d go with Uroogla – she’s the expert.</p>

<p>When you are at Brown (or somewhere else), have taken classes, talked to advisers, deans, professors, students, even visited career development – that’s how and when you make these decisions. You are not expected to know these things as a high school senior. Many many students change their minds about what they are studying over the first two years at college. You can always start as an ScB and change to AB.</p>

<p>Also, you don’t need to concentrate or double concentrate in CS to do programming or even get a programming job. </p>

<p>When you get to college, you’ll take economics and applied math and CS and a bunch of other classes, and you’ll figure out eventually what you love to do, and your concentration will become a lot clearer. Don’t overtax yourself by deciding ahead of time to major in a multitude of subjects. It’s really hard to tell from looking at a website or course description whether you will love a subject. You need to actually take the classes.</p>

<p>I doubt that business or law schools care one iota whether you do an ScB or AB. If you want to get into a PhD program in, say, chemistry or engineering, then it matters (although I’ve known people with ABs to get into grad school). As for employers – it really depends on what type of job. If you want an engineering job, then you should probably do the ScB in engineering.</p>

<p>I came to Brown with minimal programming experience, took a CS class last fall, and LOVED it. Applied Math-Econ, CS-Econ, and Applied Math-CS are all great majors if you eventually want to go to Wall Street. You don’t need to necessarily double-concentrate to get a solid grounding in all three subjects; remember, you’ll have ~14 electives (assuming that you’d take only 4 classes a semester - more electives for you if you want to take 5!) which you can partly fulfill with CS classes, and I assure you that you learn a lot in any CS class at Brown.</p>

<p>Thanks a lot guys! I think I’m just about sorted now.</p>

<p>And all I have to do next is get accepted. haha</p>

<p>Are there a lot of Vampire Weekend fans at Brown?</p>

<p>Helllllllll yes :D</p>

<p>Vampy weekend is def popular here.</p>

<p>I was gonna speculate, but then I decided to leave it to actual current students. It looks like I would have been right :)</p>

<p>They played here for Spring Weekend 2008.</p>

<p>Ah right, I only made it in time for Lupe.</p>