<p>I am seriously considering IU. My other choices sre Umaryland, Geneseo and Northeastern. I am direct admit Kelley. What do you think is the biggest disadvantage of IU? Also, what is something you wish you knew before attending?</p>
<p>Biggest disadvantage for me is not being able to get home (Chicago) for the weekends. Other than that, I guess the business school could use some remodeling, but it is going to be remodeled this summer so that won’t be a con for too much longer. Also, the elevators at Eigenmann suck.</p>
<p>My son felt the biggest con is the size of the school. So many students means it is harder to get places, harder to find parking, and that events are crowded. Also a lot more partying going on than some people like (but that is at most colleges, I’m afraid). That and the weather–quite erratic compared to the West Coast and very humid in the summer.</p>
<p>Maxellis: Isn’t IU only 4 hours from Chicago? I thought the school ran busses to Chicago? Is it too expensive to go Chicago for the weekend? I am coming from the east coast, is it realistic to think I could visit Chicago for the weekend ? Overall are you glad you picked IU? Are you satisfied with the business program?</p>
<p>Susantm: Does your son regret his choice? I was hoping being in the business school and joining an LLC would give me a sense of community and a small school feel within IU. Do you think this is realistic? I don’t plan on having a car for at least my first 2 years, so at least I will not deal with parking issues.</p>
<p>I am very glad I picked IU and satisfied with the business program; every business class I have taken so far is centered around real world applications. It is about 4.5-5 hours to chicago and I don’t have a car. There are buses, but they are $60 each way; I am not going to spend $120 for a weekend in Chicago.</p>
<p>maxellis: Guess I better save up my work study money for that trip to Chicago. Thanks for the feed back.</p>
<p>My son does not regret his choice. He is a music major, and he has definitely found a smaller community within the music school, and some very good friends. I imagine the same thing happens within the business school, as well. He did not have a car his first year, but he was an RA his second year, and his deal with us was that he would put some of the money he made as an RA toward a car. He now lives off campus and uses the car a lot.</p>
<p>As for Chicago, music students often drive up to Chicago just for one day to hear the symphony, so I’m sure you could get away to Chicago occasionally. Carpooling is definitely beneficial for that. You will likely have at least one friend with a car, so if you are willing to help pay for gas, you will probably have some opportunities to visit Chicago.</p>
<p>Well, for my son, the big con was the poor counseling he got during his sophomore year before he was admitted to the Kelley school. He had counselors who suggested he take second semester calculus courses he didn’t need (and that were a grind to get through) and courses like “History of Health” that met none of the General Education requirments, and he had counselors that wouldn’t get him into the required I-Core prerequisites until very late in his sophomore and junior years.</p>
<p>As a result, he will be taking I-Core in the final semester of his senior year (which is next year) in order to graduate within 4 years.</p>
<p>Once he got into Kelley, which wasn’t until the second semester of his sophomore year, the counseling improved a little–and now that he’s in his junior year, the counseling has improved a lot. (This was complained about by the pre-business students and also on this site, so I think the school took steps to improve it over the past two years.)</p>
<p>The other big con–which I think still exists–is that the honors program is entirely geared to helping incoming freshman get into the honors program, and does nothing for students who do well their first year at IU, but who are not already admitted to the program. </p>
<p>I also think the school does a good job about letting already admitted Kelley students know about all the extra programs available and how to be admitted–like the investment banking workshop and the business consulting workshop–but makes very little effort to let those students who are declared pre-business majors, but who are not direct admits, know about these programs and how to get into them. In my son’s case, he could have gotten into both programs, but applied to late for one–and never even knew about the second until earlier this year (his junior year). </p>
<p>Okay, now that I’ve given you the bad stuff, let me say that overall my son is still quite happy to have gone to the school, has met a great girlfriend there, and is very pleased with his major program of study and 85% to 90% of all his professors so far. He says that if he had to do it all over again, he would still choose Indiana over his other college options–although he did say that he probably would have applied to more colleges originally.</p>
<p>Susantm: thanks for your input
Calcruzer: I am direct admit, so perhaps I will avoid a little of the run around your son received getting into Kelley. Do you choose an advisor or are they assigned. If there is someone to avoid, could you pm me? Thanks again.</p>
<p>Great Thread!</p>
<p>Does anyone know if foreign language is a requirement for a Kelley DA? My son took Latin in HS and never took a foreign language so I am hoping it is not required.</p>
<p>Hi, I’m a direct admit Kelley
Does anyone know about placement test?
How can I earn money to decrease my family’s contribution?
thanks for helping me!</p>
<p>there is NO foreign lang. requirement for kelley DA</p>
<p>I knew one student who said a con of attending IU for someone from the northeast is a difference in culture. The only difference I noticed when I visited is people were friendlier and more helpful. Can a current student who is OOS comment on this?</p>
<p>Yes, the students (and I hate to admit it, since I’m from out-of-state, even the parents, professors, and administrators) are friendlier. My wife is from New Jersey and I’m from California, so we’re used to being very straight-forward and even a little bit “in your face”, which you won’t find in Indiana. (I’m an OOS parent, not a OOS student.)</p>
<p>I don’t know the names of the counselors my son has now or had before, so I can’t help you with that. I’m think that all the counselors went through training classes during the past year, so I don’t think you need to worry that you won’t get good counseling at this point.</p>
<p>Lastly, let me mention that while foreign language is not a requirement to graduate from the Kelley school of business, there is an “International Dimension” requirement–which can be met in various ways–which are listed here:</p>
<p>[International</a> Dimension Requirement: Degree Requirements: Academics: Undergraduate Program: Kelley School of Business: Indiana University Bloomington](<a href=“Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley)</p>
<p>Go to IU if your seriously considering majoring in business, life is all about Kelley and not to mention it bests your other choices. Yes, the campus a large but you’ll get used to it, trust me, my freshman year I lived in the dorm furthest away from the library, business school and all the other locals related to my major yet I did not feel it was overwhelming. Lastly, advising is incompetent if you have not classified your school yet and since you have you should have no trouble as Kelley advisers seem to know what they are doing.</p>
<p>There’s not a lot of diversity here in Bloomington. I’m from Chicago, and I used to go to Loyola University. I lived in the city which as you can imagine is highly diverse in every demographic. Here at IUB its all white or asian and by that I mean like 95 % white and 3 asian. IUB has a large student exchange program with the University of Seoul in Korea so there are a decent amount of Korean students here mostly in Kelley. There are definitely Professors at Kelley you should avoid at all costs (mainly your GPA) and many that you absolutely NEED to have because they will challenge your perspective and make you 200 % better. </p>
<p>Also the University division counseling was pretty poor but anyone who wants in to Kelley can pick up a check list of courses that makes picking classes a no brainer. </p>
<p>Here are the classes prior to admissions that you will consume a lot of time so schedule accordingly.</p>
<p>Bus K201 (take Kinser either Eric or Amy- this class is only hard if u’re not a computer person) </p>
<p>BUs X201 (same deal either Kinser are amazing and they talk to recruiters at KPMG and wrote me a killer recommendation which helped me land an international internship this summer in Asia 
– again only hard if you’re not a computer person) </p>
<p>Econ e370 (my exam scores were 77, 65, 95, 88 and my final grade? 103 % it is just curved THAT much b/c there is one professor and she is horrible)</p>
<p>Bus-A100 (intro accounting- how hard could it be? just wait haha, they make it unnecessarily difficult aka weed out class)</p>
<p>Bus-A 202 (managerial accnting for me was harder than financial- if you’re good with numbers like me it’ll prob be the same otherwise A201 financial accounting will be harder for you )</p>
<p>The rest are pretty easy but if you’re not a direct admit the competition to get into Kelley is getting pretty brutal, so I would check ratemyprofessors.com and see who you are getting even if it messes up your schedule an easy A is worth it every time TRUST me especially if you’re paying out of state like me, DO NOT waste your time and money getting C’s because you don’t want to wait an hour or two between classes when u can get A’s.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info grafter01!</p>
<p>For clarification, what do you mean by: “DO NOT waste your time and money getting C’s because you don’t want to wait an hour or two between classes when u can get A’s.”?</p>
<p>funployee–I think what grafter means is that some students will schedule classes back to back even knowing one prof might not be as good as another. I think grafter is suggesting that you be willing to wait an hour or two between classes to get a better or easier prof.</p>
<p>Exactly, trust me my brother did that for Math M-119. He had 6 total exams, I had 4. He got a B-, I got an A and he knew the material much better than I did- But I chose an easier professor while he chose not to have a 2 hour gap in his schedule.</p>
<p>My D came from a home where Mom cooked every night. She didn’t grow up with take out and junk food. So the only complaint she has had this year is the food. A steady diet of hamburgers, chicken fingers, burritos just isn’t her normal fare. She has spent more money while at IU eating outside her meal plan than any other item. But next year she has an apt with a kitchen so this should be fixed. But from what I understand no college serves steak, asparagus and baked potatoes with sour cream and chives or beef stroganoff so this isn’t an IU specific problem.</p>