<p>Are the math classes really that hard?</p>
<p>I have a friend, who as a high schooler, took/is taking MTH 215,216,289,295,296,395,396, 512,513,525, and 575 and I belive he got A's in all of them (some A+'s, too). Though he is really smart, I don't doubt that there are other Honors Math majors of that caliber, so I am curious to see what's causing everyone's poor grades.</p>
<p>Most people get A's and B's in Honors Math classes, I believe, right?</p>
<p>Forgiven, we should meet in 490. I think I'm the only Christine in that class. I have no idea what to write my reflection on either.</p>
<p>Christine, are you of Slavic descent?</p>
<p>To all, I will tell you this, Michigan is tough. It is not as tough as Caltech or MIT, but it is up there with the likes of Cal, Chicago and Cornell. Professors are brilliant and demanding and they expect only the best of their students.</p>
<p>No, I'm not...the class is just interesting, in my opinion...need to take more humanities courses, hehe...</p>
<p>hey guys, i thought at umich, a- thru a+ is a 4.0, b- to b+ is a 3.0 and so on. my friend sad that an a- is actually a 3.8 or something like that, jut not a 4.0. is this true? that kinda sucks if it does because in high school itself i relied on gettin a-'s, unless i concentrated like hll and spent all my time on a subject. plz reply.</p>
<p>For the admissions process, they calculate a "Umich GPA", where they strip away the +/- and make all forms of an A=4.0, all forms of a B=3.0, etc. Once you actually get here, grades are done with the following, more traditional scale.</p>
<p>A/A+ =4.0
A- =3.7
B+ =3.3
B = 3.0
etc.</p>
<p>Michigan is not as difficult as Chicago.</p>
<p>Tennisdude, it depends on major, but by and large, I agree that Chicago is more intense. Still, Michigan is tough.</p>
<p>ughhh....the math 115 test was hard.</p>
<p>Building on what Alexandre said...the thing about Michigan is that you can make it as hard or easy as you want it to be, so it's really hard to compare.</p>
<p>I think that Chicago has the lowest percentage of students receiving A's. Also, there known for being slavedrivers when it comes to workload.</p>
<p>dang it dilksy that sucks</p>
<p>outofstateorbust: yes. omg.</p>
<p>I'm not making a general statement about Chicago, but just telling you about one person who went there. (Out of all the schools I got into, based purely on non-location decisions, I'd probably be at Chicago if not Michigan, so it's not like I want to trash the school or anything.) A kid I know was about a 3.5 GPA student with a 1400-ish SAT at a big public high school and he said a lot of what is said about Chicago being "overly"-intellectual and tough is simply based on reputation. But I don't know, maybe he's just taking easier classes his first semester (He only went there because he somehow got in and rejected at every other school...none of quite as high caliber...weird where life takes us, isn't it?).</p>
<p>Gbooks - B (really hard GSI - I got a B on my midterm and read everything. My friends who read sparknotes the night before got As)
Chem 130 - A/A+
Chem 125 - B (hard GSI)
Math 156 - B+
Italian 101 - A</p>
<p>If you are a high school student reading this, take this warning. The difference in homework from a 3.0 GPA to a mid-high 3 is about 3 hours a night. B's are so easy to get, but getting that A is death.</p>
<p>Great Books - B+ (quite a few in my class got As though)
Astro 101 - A+
Econ 101 - A+
Japanese 125 - A+</p>
<p>ecohen - who's your GB GSI?</p>
<p>the homeworks and sections are equally importnat. they may look less weighted, but they can drag your letter grade down by two if you're not careful.</p>
<p>Eng 101 - A+
Chem 130 - A/A+
Chem 125 - A-/A
Math 215 - A/A+
History 197 (seminar, I switched this to pass/fail) - P</p>
<p>hey does pass fail look bad for grad schools? i kno that in our school, if u pass fail a class, its horrible for college.</p>
<p>I don't think it looks bad if you only do it once or twice at Michigan. You just shouldn't do it a lot.</p>
<p>Econ 101: C (mad about this, material is easy. Hoping to do well on final exam, maybe pull a B)
Spanish 231: B/A ???
Great Books 191:B/B- (Great Books is all about the GSI. I got a tough one. Don't get a tough GSI.)
Calc 2 Honors: A</p>
<p>Next semester I'm bumping it up. I've backpacked the following but my registration date isn't until like December 7. </p>
<p>Spanish 232
Great Books 192 (with an easier GSI!!!)
Physics 140+Lab
Calc III Applied Honors
Engineering 110 (supposed to be easy, 2 credits)</p>
<p>For a total of 19 credits...</p>