<p>From the UCLA Daily Bruin</p>
<p>I like the last quote</p>
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“There’s nothing like stepping onto the UCLA campus. ... You’re like, ‘This is the real deal.’”
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<p>meh... so-so</p>
<p>Wow, that persian girl is beautiful.</p>
<p>so are the counselors at SMC really not that helpful? =/</p>
<p>Even if you want to put it nicely, "not that helpful" is an understatement... They suck and don't know what they're talking about. At least all the ones I ever had to talk to.</p>
<p>If you're on this board you can be pretty sure that you know much more than most counselors there.</p>
<p>i agree, loathed.</p>
<p>she gets the "i'd hit it" seal of approval.</p>
<p>i believe these are true..</p>
<p>"Despite the difficulties of establishing a social network at the community college, students said they benefited from the ability to explore different classes at a lower cost, from classes smaller in size that those at a four-year university and from the opportunity to get to know their professors personally."</p>
<p>"Dieina added that the counselors at the college were not helpful, and she had to figure out how the American school system works on her own."</p>
<p>"Weiner said she noticed her class sizes dwindling as the semester wore on, because though there are the motivated students who are determined to transfer, there are also students who are not focused on transferring and have a more relaxed attitude toward their education."</p>
<p>Famous line of the counselors....."yeah just go to assist.org"</p>
<p>the social part of the article is also true</p>
<p>well, thanks...now im not 100% exactly sure i want to apply to SMC anymore =/</p>
<p>Haha... well: SMC does have the best rate of transfers to UCLA. I mean no other school comes close to SMC's 500+ people per year. They have a great rep. Many of my professors have also or are currently also teaching at UCLA while at SMC. The Bio dep't meets every semester with the UCLA bio dep't to make sure their courses are up to snuff. They say which community college you transfer from doesn't matter.. I beg to differ. UCLA admissions KNOWS that SMC is like UCLA's little brother and I'd be shocked if they don't take that into account when considering transfer students!</p>
<p>They should just replace all counselors at CC's with a blow up doll next to a computer logged onto assist.org. It'd be pretty cost-effective, and you'd be getting the same experience as with a regular counselor.</p>
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Haha... well: SMC does have the best rate of transfers to UCLA.
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<p>SMC has the highest number of transfers, but not the best percentage.</p>
<p>the fact that SMC has the most UCLA transfers means nothing</p>
<p>that should be obvious...</p>
<p>I think location has a tremendous influence on the amount of UCLA transfers from SMC.</p>
<p>For example, I attended Fullerton College and the top transfer institution there is CSUF. For UCs it's UCI. What a surprise! Many people at FJC feel inclined to stay in Orange County.
Counselors really don't know half the **** they're supposed to especially when it came to UC/private transfers. Like you guys said, they always refer to assist.org as if it's not something I can do on my own. They could tell me EVERYTHING about transferring to CSUF though.
I think counselors are also more prepared to give advice to a prospective UCLA transfer because there are so many students who intend to transfer to the top-tier highly competitive UC eight miles away.
I don't think where you go to community college makes that much of a difference. </p>
<p>I wonder if Berkeley city college and UCB follow the same trend. It would make sense wouldn't it?</p>
<p>I think region has a lot to do with where students transfer. I attended CCSF for most of my credits, and Berkeley City College for one class. I can't really say whether BCC has more transfers to UCB or CSU-East Bay, but UCB, Mills College (private women's college), and CSU-EB seem well represented on that campus - at least in literature and flyers posted around the school. </p>
<p>CCSF tries to push people towards SFSU more than anywhere, but will support those who want to transfer to UCB or Mills College (probably because UCB and Mills both offer concurrent enrollment each semester to CCSF - and BCC - students). Students seem to have to ask for info for UCB, which in my opinion is wrong. If the counselor sees that the student is getting all A's or mostly A's, the counselor should automatically suggest UCB as a choice. UCB was only focused on when I asked them to review my IGETC form to see if I was on track for that school. </p>
<p>I did all of my own planning, using the IGETC sheet, the CSU transfer sheet, and the AA requirements sheet. I cross-referenced them to see which classes would fulfill requirements for all three. I also then referenced Assist to see which classes I would need as pre-reqs for potential majors. I cannot say that any counselor I met with actually did anything for me in regards to planning, other than to say "well, it looks like you are on track." I do not know how science or engineering transfers can handle this planning on their own because there is almost no support. </p>
<p>I was actually reading a couple of reports on the CCSF website yesterday about what happens to students after leaving CCSF. The bulk of students transferring from CCSF go to SFSU, next popular is UCB, next is some other CSU (CSU-EB?), and finally, private schools such as Mills or USF. The report is kind of old, but probably still mostly relevant.</p>
<p>Look for "Transfer Destinations of CCSF Students, Summer 1997 - Spring 2001" Office</a> of Research, Planning and Grants</p>