<p>but yeah I don’t think the drop in applications matters very much.</p>
<p>Rainbow, yes it does…Because if this means a drop in applications overall (which it probably does; this level of decrease is unprecedented) they HAVE to accept a higher percentage of applicants; they still have to fill up the class!</p>
<p>Or, the other way around! Since there is less to draw from from the ED pool, they may just wait for the RD pool in which they’ll have more to choose from.</p>
<p>That’s possible, but they still want to fill up a fixed part of the class ED. Also, what I’m trying to say is a 12.5% decrease in apps ED probably doesn’t just speak to a decrease in apps for ED since it’s really an unprecedented and unexpected decrease in apps, but probably bodes for a decrease in apps this entire application cycle (including RD). Not for sure, but likely (why I expressed hesitation). But will they risk accepting fewer kids ED, only not to have a pool big enough (they’d need an even bigger pool RD than normal to compensate for choosing less ED) RD to be as selective, keeping in mind the yield rate for Dartmouth itself has been dropping? No one can know. The safest bet would be accept a comparable amount ED as in a normal year so they have a class. The other option is to defer a lot of borderline candidates to wait and see if competition is still higher in the RD round. If it isn’t, they risk a lot of those borderline, deferred candidates going to other colleges, and they’re back in the same situation of trying to fill up the class.</p>
<p>That is true also Cirroalex. Only time will tell I suppose. I hope we all get in from CC.</p>
<p>When do you guys think they will release decisions? On the live chat thing that they had, they said that they would try to get decisions out on 12/7-12/9 I believe. With Hurricane Sandy though, do you think that’s still possible?</p>
<p>Who knows. But my guess is yes, because there are less applications for them to read 
That should balance out the effects of the hurricane (I think).</p>
<p>ughh I’m still frustrated about my stupid error… I hope it doesn’t matter!!</p>
<p>One error should be insignificant!</p>
<p>The decline in ED apps makes perfect sense. 1995 was the first year in recent history where there were fewer kids born than the previous year. This means that there are less kids applying in general (yayy for us!). The exponentially rising tuition and current state of the economy also come into play. A lot of people would like the option of merit scholarships or in-state tuition instead of committing to pay over $200,000. Many people aren’t sure if it’s worth it given the job outlook. The ED acceptance rate will likely remain the same (25%) but the RD acceptance rate will probably be higher. Good luck everyone and may the odds be ever in your favor. :)</p>
<p>Greengirl, by that logic, UPenn shouldn’t have seen a 5% increase in apps, or Brown shouldn’t have seen a 1% increase, or Yale shouldn’t have seen a 4% increase, or Princeton shouldn’t have seen a 10% increase, or UChicago shouldn’t have seen a 20% increase. Dartmouth’s 13% decrease in apps is most likely from the negative publicity surrounding the hazing scandal honestly, not demographic changes (which would affect every college).</p>
<p>Sorry I don’t think I was clear. Although demographics are slightly changing, finances are the main driving factor. The rolling stones article definitely had a lot to do with it, but there are other factors. Early action application changes at Yale, Princeton, UChicago, Stanford, etc are irrelevant because those are not binding commitments. No one is forcing those kids to pay $60,000 a year if accepted, which Dartmouth is. As for Penn, their stats (GPA, SAT) are lower than Dartmouth’s and their acceptance rate is higher, so that encourages more kids to apply. The quality of Dartmouth’s application pool is probably better than Penn’s though. Penn also had more outreach than Dartmouth. Tons of people get huge packets from Penn without filling out contact info on their website, but for Dartmouth you have to reach out to them first.</p>
<p>Personally I think the election also affected early decision. There was a lot of uncertainty regarding our country’s future financial state around the deadline. The stock market plummeted the day after election day which confirmed many Americans’ inklings.</p>
<p>You made good points about the outreach, admissions statistics, and ED vs. EA…Those coupled with the scandal probably are what caused the decline in applicants. The point about the election is more shaky. Out of curiosity, are you an ED applicant as well?</p>
<p>Yes I applied Early Decision. I doubt the election had much of an effect for most applicants but I know a few people who didn’t want to make the ED commitment because of the uncertainty regarding federal loans and such.</p>
<p>I guess that’s true…Time will only tell what it will all mean. Gosh, these next three weeks couldn’t go any faster…</p>
<p>It’s not as far away as you think it is! Especially with Thanksgiving break, etc.</p>
<p>It’ll be here soon… Hopefully the news is good for all of us though.</p>
<p>I hope so too, still incredibly nervous, though.</p>
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<p>Dartmouth: 670-780CR 680-780M 680-790W
Penn: 660-760CR 690-780M 670-780W</p>
<p>Those stats are from college board. You are wrong, Penn and Dartmouth have almost identical stats, and probably their applicant pools do as well.</p>
<p>Well, I’d think that all the Ivy League schools share similar applicant pools, but that’s just me.</p>
<p>Most Ivy League schools seem to share similar applicant pools. Although, some schools receive more applications than others.</p>
<p>So when do we hear the results from Dartmouth?
I applied from an Asian country where hardly anybody applies to Dartmouth from with SAT scores of 1870. My chances are pretty slim you know.</p>