Dartmouth is harder to get into than Penn

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<p>Sorry, I haven't been around for a while. I totally destroyed the poster on the other thread, but I don't feel like doing it here.</p>

<p>Bottom line: Dartmouth is not harder to get into Penn, it might be AS selective but certainly not more so, and in terms of preference among admitted HS seniors, the numbers are almost exactly 50/50 - and that was 5 years ago, before Dartmouth dropped out of the US News top-10.</p>

<p>Tack onto that the fact that Penn has consistently ranked higher than Dartmouth for about 12 years, and that I have yet to meet people that chose Dartmouth over Penn (although I've met a ton in the opposite direction), I would say that Dartmouth has absolutely no case.</p>

<p>Unless they were just trying to start a flame war. In that case, post all you want. I'm just going to douse your flames in facts, though.</p>

<p>And who here said that Dartmouth was harder to get into than Penn? For shame!</p>

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<p>whocares which one is harder to get into...</p>

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<p>both fine schools-very different though. Penn has bigger grad school, it has a nursing school-it is in the city; higher crime rate
Dartmouth more like a liberal arts college with med school, engineering, and business schools that do not dominate; in the country with its own ski mountain, low crime rate.
I would think that they would attract different students.</p>

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<p>does the area around penn really have a high crime rate?</p>

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<p>idk about high crime rate but i know crime is present. but nobody ever has a reason to go to this part of Philly anyway. it's really just campus or downtown.</p>

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when we define selectivity as "difficulty of getting accepted" which takes into account acceptance rate and the quality of the applicant pool, i have to say dartmouth. not only does D have a lower acceptance rate, but its applicant pool is extremely self selective. people who apply to an ivy on a whim don't choose D.

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<p>I don't know where you went to high school, but I honestly can't imagine anyone who thinks Dartmouth is more selective than Penn.</p>

<p>Seriously, it's just... not. I've never even met Dartmouth students who think so!</p>

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<p>Also, Choklitrain: even if you're just measuring selectivity, Penn still wins. Check out this ranking, which only takes into account acceptance rate, SAT scores and HS profile: A</a> Selectivity Database | A Sidebar to "The Selectivity Illusion"</p>

<p>I'd love to hear what you think about that. Don't try to ascribe that all to Wharton, either. The reported acceptance rate = CAS acceptance rate, I have a number of threads about all that.</p>

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<p>Harvard</a> Tops the Most Popular Colleges List - MSN Encarta</p>

<p>Penn comes in at number 8 on the "Most Popular National Colleges List," with Harvard taking the number 1 spot (who woulda guessed). Dartmouth isn't even mentioned. As a matter of fact, only HYP and Penn are the only Ivy schools on the list.</p>

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<p>umm so are columbia, brown, and cornell.
and btw muerte, dartmouth is kind of more selective in terms of acceptance rate (i normally agree with you but not here). you linked 2002 data and also, ED was harder at dartmouth this year.</p>

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<p>ED was harder, that's true. Overall though, there is as yet no difference. Seriously, are you going to nitpick about 2 percentage points? Is Columbia better than Stanford and Princeton, simply because it accepts 2% fewer applicants? No way!</p>

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<p>dartmouth is harder to get in. therefore i regret getting into Penn ED and not apping ED to dartmouth. or do i?</p>

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<p>why would you REGRET that? you may not have gotten in to dartmouth!
according to you...
"apply ED to penn b/c it is the best school in the world "
haha</p>

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<p>Ok, once again, pretty sure the OP was not attempting to criticize any university and was just pointing out a fact...</p>

<p>Not sure why we all get so worried about the number of people a college rejects...</p>

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<p>There's this thing called sarcasm.</p>

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<p>every person i've ever talked to about this would rather go to dartmouth than penn, for what it's worth</p>

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<p>Was every person your mother and your dog? I personally know someone who was rejected from Penn (1st choice) and was forced to accept Dartmouth's offer. I have yet to meet someone for whom this has happened in reverse.</p>

<p>Double-whammy: when I was at Cornell, I met someone who chose Cornell over Dartmouth, and he wasn't even in one of the incredible specialty schools. What do you have to say to that?</p>

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<p>i know a person who got rejected D ED and then got into Penn RD(and Duke)...muerte, you have a real self esteem problem, and it's not going to be solved by defending penn's honor on these boards every day.</p>

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<p>"Was every person your mother and your dog?"</p>

<p>Yes.</p>

<p>"I personally know someone who was rejected from Penn (1st choice) and was forced to accept Dartmouth's offer. I have yet to meet someone for whom this has happened in reverse."</p>

<p>Uhh, maybe the reason you don't know anyone who chose Dartmouth over Penn is because you go to Penn?</p>

<p>"Double-whammy: when I was at Cornell, I met someone who chose Cornell over Dartmouth, and he wasn't even in one of the incredible specialty schools. What do you have to say to that?"</p>

<p>You're citing one little anecdote about one person who chose a school that almost everyone sees equal to Dartmouth over Dartmouth? Does that prove anything? This argument is especially bad because I would choose Cornell over Penn myself.</p>

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<p>Then you must be applying to engineering or Architecture, or you're just insane.</p>

<p>I decided that I like you, though. You don't make much sense, but your posts are kind of funny.</p>

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<p>So you're telling me that any person who would rather go to Cornell than Penn and isn't in Architecture or Engineering is insane? And you're telling me that -I- don't make much sense? Your trolling has gotten to a point of hilarity....</p>