<p>Not really. There's no reason to go otherwise.</p>
<p>I actually think they are in the same range. I was mainly countering what I found to be a ridiculous view held by "beef supreme" and muerta. </p>
<p>The reality is that the numbers and statistics show a slight edge to Dartmouth, but not a big enough one that institutional preferences and general randomness is college admissions make it so every candidate could have a better shot at either. </p>
<p>Dartmouth's apps have skyrocketed almost 30% over the last two years while Penn has been flat. Dartmouth has a lower acceptance rate and higher overall stats. In terms of "revealed preference" most studies have Dartmouth ahead. </p>
<p>The</a> New York Times > Week in Review > Image > Collegiate Matchups: Predicting Student Choices</p>
<p>As for anecdotal evidence its ridiculous. I have SO MANY friends from Dartmouth who choose it over Penn hence they went to Dartmouth. I'm sure you'll find the same at Penn!</p>
<p>I think dartmouth has a better name (its more recognizable...i mean we all saw Superbad rite?)</p>
<p>yeah and another thing is that dart's apps have gone up and penns have stagnated, but i mean it was only 4 or 3 years ago that penn had a lower admit rate than dartmouth (true story)</p>
<p>Actually Penn has never had a lower admit rate than Dartmouth. </p>
<p>2005 Penn was 20.8% and Dartmouth was 17.0%.<br>
2006 Dartmouth was at 15.68%, Penn was 17.7%.</p>
<p>^^look at the 2002 numbers. they did then.</p>
<p>Who seriously cares. I really hope that most of the people at Penn are not as insecure and defensive as some of the posters in this thread.</p>
<p>Not to be a stickler but in 2002 Dartmouth had a 20% acceptance rate while Penn had a 21.1% acceptance rate. Penn has never had a lower acceptance rate than dartmouth.</p>
<p>Admission</a> rates drop across the Ivy League - News</p>
<p>Actually, Penn HAS indeed had a lower acceptance rate than Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Not to be a stickler, but your data is wrong. In 2002, Dartmouth accepted 23% and Penn accepted 21%. The comments after the article you posted indicate a number of errors in the text.</p>
<p>A</a> Selectivity Database | A Sidebar to "The Selectivity Illusion"</p>
<p>Glad to see none of you are falling for troll bait /s</p>
<p>"I personally know someone who was rejected from Penn (1st choice) and was forced to accept Dartmouth's offer. I have yet to meet someone for whom this has happened in reverse."</p>
<p>Uhh, maybe the reason you don't know anyone who chose Dartmouth over Penn is because you go to Penn?</p>
<p>On that note, i have to say. owned</p>
<p>if you are fairly qualified and apply to Penn for ED, you stand a 50% of being taken.
I do not know about D, but I doubt that is true for them.</p>
<p>Look, more people apply to Penn than Dartmouth. Dartmouth has an undergraduate student body that is less than half of Penn's (41xx for D vs 99xx for P). If Penn has more than twice as many seats to fill and still gets an acceptance rate that's even close to Dartmouth, then hats off to Penn.</p>
<p>In other news, Penn historically releases its RD application numbers this week (2nd week of feb) so hopefully they'll report a fabulously huge increase and we can all be on our merry way. THough I wouldn't be surprised if Wharton has taken a hit and now drags Penn's College down...oh the irony</p>
<p>bluewhitebulldog,
I am curious where the 50% comes from. Doesn't ED acceptance usually around 30-32% and that includes legacies and recruited athletes. Just curious.</p>
<p>^ it's feasible if we define reasonably qualified as "top 5%/2250"</p>
<p>yeah. penn's ED is around 30%, as is dartmouth's. </p>
<p>a lot of people apply to darmouth because they don't have to write an essay (well, a friend does, but it takes work off the hands of the applicant). maybe that could influence its lower numbers?</p>
<p>but what does admissions rate say anyway? it indicates absolutely NOTHING about the student population, nothing about the educational quality, nothing about the faculty, nothing about the opportunities present at the schools (although i must say, being in a city is quite advantageous)
so let's just stop talking about the admissions rate, especially since the difference is just a few percentage points. both penn and dartmouth are amazing schools. who cares if one is "harder to get in" than the other?</p>
<p>Penn's student body is 48-50% ED, making it arguably more "ED friendly." Once again different institutions operate differently.</p>
<p>brb using ED as a strat to lower admit rates and increase yeild</p>
<p>lmao, these are two of the most prestigious and well-respected institutions in the nation, i doubt too many people will care which one is slightly harder to get in to</p>
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<p>Sure, if you define "fairly qualified" as 2250+, 750+ on 3 SAT IIs, and top 5% of your class, then you probably have a great shot.</p>
<p>In other words, what you said is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Admissions rate isn't everything, jesus christ people!!
It's all about average SAT scores and last time I checked... Dartmouth>Penn in this respect.
Or otherwise props to Dartmouth for getting smarter people despite being a 'less selective school'.</p>
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<p>In this case, Dartmouth>Brown>Penn>Columbia. Yet I'm certain that the Brown and Columbia kids wouldn't take to this very kindly at all.</p>