<p>That is just silly. During Ed this year there were students with perfect or near perfect SAT scores that were deferred or rejected from Penn. The student body is more than SAT scores and maybe SAT scores are more important to Dartmouth. Who really cares? They are both amazing schools and I know plenty of people who chose one over the other for various reasons, so be it. You wouldn't catch me dead in such a far removed, snowy, cold place(that goes for Cornell too.) I guess it just depends on what you are looking for.</p>
<p>Both Penn and Dartmouth are great schools. I personally would rather go to Penn; Dartmouth is too secluded. And for the person who said Dartmouth is more recognized, you are mistaken. Dartmouth is an under the radar school, yet it is a great one. The typical person may not even know what Dartmouth is.</p>
<p>"In this case, Dartmouth>Brown>Penn>Columbia. Yet I'm certain that the Brown and Columbia kids wouldn't take to this very kindly at all."</p>
<p>Actually, they wouldn't care because they have lives, unlike you.</p>
<p>Haven't read either this or the other thread but I'm willing to bet that the majority of people who care are people who don't attend either school (yet).</p>
<p>This is so funny. Obviously, it is pretty amazing to get into and attend any Ivy League or top 10 school. I can't believe the nit picking. Congrats to all who have the privilege of attending any of these fine institutions.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is slightly harder to get into than Penn, partially because it does have a higher SAT average which implies admissions are truly more selective in an academic sense.
However, I will admit that Penn RD could be harder than Dartmouth RD since Penn fills up a crapload of its class via ED.</p>
<p>Yeah, that's actually a very valid point. Dartmouth ED is harder to navigate than Penn ED, but Penn RD is almost certainly as difficult as Dartmouth's, if not more so.</p>
<p>i would definitely say dartmouth and penn rd is equal.</p>
<p>muerteapablo, what I said is not ridiculous. </p>
<p>I said that because all of the friends I know, from school to Penn, HS alumni to Penn, Penn alumni a good 90% of them applied Ed and got in. They did not have lovely numbers like you quoted.</p>
<p>God what is the point in arguing about which school is better? People are biased on each side anyway. I would say Penn is in a league of its own; it's just different from the other Ivies. I've heard Dartmouth compared to Columbia and Brown because of the liberal arts aspect but rarely to Penn. Repeat, they are completely different schools.</p>
<p>I was deciding between Dartmouth and Penn two years ago and I chose Dartmouth. I haven't regretted it at all (omg shocker?) and wouldn't trade it for the world.</p>
<p>Penn has a 25th percentile of 1330 somehow...</p>
<p>Is that low? Columbia's is also 1330.</p>
<p>Dartmouth's RD acceptance rate last year was 11.85%, Penn's was 13.81%. Admittedly, not that significant. </p>
<p>Also, Dartmouth had a 9% increase in apps this year, vs. Penn down .4% so the gap will be about 3% this year.</p>
<p>"Is that low? Columbia's is also 1330."</p>
<p>muerte--
yes, that's true but it's pretty much universally acknowledged that columbia is a far better school than penn.</p>
<p>Universally?</p>
<p>Hardly. About half of cross-admits choose Penn over Columbia.</p>
<p>So... you're wrong?</p>
<p>muerte, you seem to have access to meaningful cross-admit data. Do you actually have any current data?</p>
<p>Penn is universally considered the dregs of the ivy league where the bottom feeders come out after four years with a joke of a degree</p>
<p>Silence Scotchtape, you go to a "college" that is quickly losing its relevance.</p>
<p>pbr: The revealed preference data from the 2004 study puts Penn and Columbia only 9 points apart out of 100 in terms of cross-admitted students.</p>
<p>That data was collected 5 years ago. Since Penn has been continuously ranked higher for over a decade, I'm sure that the divide is gone, if not tilted in Penn's favor.</p>
<p>Yes, Columbia's acceptance rate is 5% lower than Penn's, but we all know that's BS. The metrics that really matter - HS class rank/GPA and SAT averages - are either identical or higher on Penn's side.</p>
<p>^^ are you for real? leave this discussion for the adults.</p>
<p>No, I don't think he is for real.</p>