Dartmouth vs. Duke vs. MIT vs. Yale

<p>Undergrads at which of these schools do best at being recruited by Wall Street IB both in terms of sum and per-capita?</p>

<p>Yale>Darmouth>MIT>Duke</p>

<p>Please provide statistics if possible. Like the number of elite banks recruiting on campus.</p>

<p>I would say:</p>

<p>Quite frankly all are very strong (top 7 schools). Duke might be the weakest here, but not by much.</p>

<p>slipper, how would you rank Dartmouth, MIT, and Yale undergrads in terms of recruitment (total and per-capita).</p>

<p>Dartmouth is considered one of the top three economics programs along with UChicago and Harvard, and is accordingly recruited heavily by banks. MIT students obviously have incredibly quantitative abilities, which is quite important in numerous fields. Yale is one of the top three schools in the world, and is in relatively close proximity to New York. Duke is a little out of the way, but is still strongly recruited. You can check company's websites and go under the Careers section to see a list of where they recruit.</p>

<p>"Dartmouth is considered one of the top three economics programs along with UChicago and Harvard."</p>

<p>Doubt it. MIT, Princeton, Stanford and Yale all have better econ programs.</p>

<p>I'd say Yale, MIT > Dartmouth > Duke</p>

<p>"Dartmouth is considered one of the top three economics programs along with UChicago and Harvard."</p>

<p>I don't think there's any kind of consensus thinking remotely like that. On what basis? Where do these myths come from? Dartmouth doesn't even have a graduate program in economics; so by what criteria are you trying to compare them?</p>

<p>Well in my opinion don't just look at the prestige also look at their programs and how it could benefit you. </p>

<p>Here's an example if you want to get into IB should you chose Harvard or Wharton? They are both prestiges; Wharton is a undergrad B-school so you'll learn more about the business and get to chose a specific area of focus (it's really sneak peak to the Real b-school), Harvard offer a chance to earn a Masters in 4 years and has a great economics course. If you want Masters and more prestige perhaps Harvard other words say hello to Wharton!</p>

<p>I think it's almost completely pointless to try to correlate the number of undergrads going into I-banking with the school itself. Going to Wharton doesn't promise you a spot in I-banking nor do I-banks favor Wharton grads over any other grads from top schools. You still need to flourish academically in order to stand a chance in finance.</p>

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<p>Not Really. It's usually Harvard, Chicago, MIT, and Princeton alone at the top for Economics.</p>

<p>IvyPBear,
Your question has no answer. It is generally accepted that Harvard, Wharton, and Princeton are the top three when coming to NYC IB. However, there are debates regarding whose fourth. Dartmouth may be fourth for it being a premier undergraduate school and its amazing network in IB and consulting (previous CEOs of GS and McKinsey were Dartmouth undergrads). MIT may be fourth due to its dominance in quantitative economics. Yale may be fourth due to it being apart of HYP. There is really no clear winner for the fourth place. It's like asking whether Mercedes or BMW builds better cars.</p>

<p>I agree with IPBear. Its hard to figure out which is does the best after Harvard, Wharton, Princeton but Dartmouth, Yale, MIT (and to a slightly lesser extent Duke) are all very much in the consideration set. Its not easy to rank them.</p>

<p>Does it really matter ? all 4 are top notch places for recruitment. Just pick the one which u like the most, and provided u have a high GPA and good EC's to back that up, ull get the job u want no matter what .</p>

<p>Most of the people on this thread CLEARLY have no idea what they are talking about.</p>

<p>IB Placement...Duke=Dartmouth=MIT > Yale</p>

<p>Duke and Dartmouth are slightly worse in placement than Harvard, Princeton, Wharton, and maybe Stanford but are still the closest to solid path into Wall Street out of almost any school. </p>

<p>Yes, Yale is by far the worst out of those four schools for IB recruitment. IB has nothing to do with economics. Are the people replying to this thread mostly in high school? Yale and Brown are both great schools with poor relationships with IBs and similarly poor placement. Same with MC.</p>

<p>I would hardly say that Yale and Brown have poor relationships with IBs with poor placement. There were more people in my and roommates' analyst classes from Yale and Brown than MIT. A lot less people from Yale are interested in IB (as about 15% go onto PhD programs as opposed to 6% at Dartmouth), but it's not like someone at Yale who is interested in IB has less of a chance of getting a job in IB than someone from Dartmouth. I seriously doubt that any of the major IBs (say Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, JP Morgan, Citigroup, Lehman, UBS, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, BofA) don't interview on-campus at Yale. </p>

<p>People on here lose sight of the fact that it's the person and not the school that determines whether you get the job and if 11% of the class at Dartmouth goes into IB and 6% of the class at Yale goes into IB, it does not mean you have a better chance by going to Dartmouth. If anything, you may have a better chance by going to Yale because there will be relatively less competition.</p>

<p>Alumni network matters when it comes to IB. Yale have slightly weaker network than MIT and Dartmouth on Wall Street. However, its reputation brings it to a place in IB that's not much different from MIT's and Dartmouth's.</p>

<p>I certainly appreciate the importance of alumni networks and obtained one of my IB offers exactly through this manner. However, alumni networks matter much more when the firm doesn't interview on campus or when you are seeking a post-entry level position that doesn't have the same formal recruiting process. Having been on the decision making side of the table, it is not going to affect a Yale candidate's chances at all that the firm has 8 Yale grads and 14 Dartmouth grads. That's the kind of discrepancy that determines whether the firm will interview at Colgate and not Middlebury (or vice versa), but not whether someone from Yale will get the job over someone from Dartmouth.</p>

<p>At that level, the differences between applicants' schools are so trivial that decisive factors often are individuals' internship experiences, majors, minors, etc.</p>

<p>Alumni networks help because you typically pull for kids from your school - I didn't mean in terms of getting hooked up with a internship. </p>

<p>And yeah, when I say Yale's placement is poor, I mean relative to a top tier target (Yale had 2-3 analysts in my class, Dartmouth had >7 for example).</p>