<p>Like it or not, schools get their prestige from their graduate programs. Do you honestly think that Harvard's undergraduate program is better than Northwestern or Dartmouth? I don't think so. I'm sure many would even say it's worse.</p>
<p>And the WSJ survey has been criticized time after time because of it's faulty methodology. Think US News x (-100).</p>
<p>UC_Benz, the methodology is WSJ survey is flawed because it only takes 15 of the top 30 schools into account, leaving out some major top schools like Stanford's grad programs. So I agree, small differences are irrelevent. Big differences, however, still make sense because the sample is large enough.</p>
<p>uc_benz: where are you heading? undergrad or grad school?
To judge a school from it's grad school prestige will certainly cost you a lot through your undergraduate career, I think.</p>
<p>I'd be interested to see what school does not get their prestige from graduate studies. Harvard? Yes. Yale? Not as much as Harvard, but still a yes. Berkeley? Definitely. Pretty much everyone single top 25 school gets their prestige from graduate programs.</p>
<p>The WSJ survey was done based on the stats of ONE year and it's quite a while ago. The ranking can look very different now especially when you are talking about small number of people who actually apply to top-5 schools, whatever they are these days--5 more people get into those schools and all of a sudden the school can get a huge jump in ranking. I also don't know how they kept track of people who applied to business schools several years after they graduated.</p>
<p>The reality is if you are applying to biz school, there's no difference between coming out of dartmouth with a 3.6 GPA and coming out of NWU with the same GPA. Work experience is much more of a deciding factor.</p>
<p>Seems williamzhang doesn't quite catch what I mean. </p>
<p>I pose this question: If someone asks you what college he/she should go to for English, what would you say? What about for Economics? Maybe Chemistry?</p>
<p>Dartmouth. I have gone to both a research university (Columbia) and a LACish one (Dartmouth). Dartmouth doesnt have T/As, you get more grants, you get more time with professors, and you have the benefit of a strong tightknit community with a strong alumni network. That is partially why Dartmouth (and Amherst/ Williams) students continually get into the top grad schools and get the top jobs. </p>
<p>IMO Dartmouth has a better quality of life than NU (I like being part of a real community that is incredibly friendly towards each other - hence the Dartmouth "cult". </p>
<p>IMO Dartmouth has a better quality of life than NU (I like being part of a real community that is incredibly friendly towards each other - hence the Dartmouth "cult".</p>
<p>-Northwestern does have a community feel, maybe not one as strong as the one at Dartmouth (because of sheer numbers), but it definitely does exist. Moreover, Northwestern is a very pre-professional school; it does well in grad placement, but also trains people to go directly from undergrad to a career, something Id say it does better than Dartmouth.</p>
<p>I don't think that's true, all the top firms recruit at Dartmouth...and its usually the Boston or NYC locations, which are usually the core offices...</p>
<p>"For engineering sure, but for business, law school, med school I give the edge to Dartmouth. Top grad schools/ I banks/ consultant firms on the east coast seem to be have more dartmouth grads. And even in engineering/ econ, a great majority go into business. And most will admit that grad rankings of engineering/ econ matter a lot less than the number and quality of recruiters that show up on campus, and Dartmouth excels. "</p>
<p>dartmouth doesnt have a undergrad business program, dont know about NU</p>
<p>Myth#1 of college admissions: Going into business requires a business major. There are many more top econ grads at the top banking/ consulting firms than business majors. My best friend who worked at McKinsey was an art history major! The school matters more than the major.</p>