Dartmouth vs. Northwestern, please help

<p>Not too many from the top schools though! The Ivies besides Penn, Duke, Stanford, etc are just as successful at placing grads into the top firms as Stern, Sloan, etc.</p>

<p>The fact that certain firms choose to recruit at certain schools due to tradition or whatever really proves nothing much except that certain frims recruit at cetain schools. Many studies question the actual value of what many of these firms accomplish.</p>

<p>slipper1234,</p>

<p>You have so far provided no published data and facts, other than "I have this friend; I know many people...; "EVERY" top firm recruits at Darmouth (how did you manage to know them all??)...blah blah to claim Dartmouth has better job placement for people going into biz field.</p>

<p>However, here's the fact about two programs that tradiationally send grads to biz-finance field:</p>

<p>Dartmouth's econ dept isn't top-rated.
Dartmouth has no industrial engineering program.</p>

<p>Northwestern econ dept is always in top-10 and highly popular (large dept).
Northwestern has a top-5 industrial engineering program and it's also very popular with about 100 people per class.</p>

<p>About Boston, Boston is tiny compared than Chicago. You seem not to know how large Chicago actually is. Like I said, Dartmouth is in NH, NOT NYC; the association with the Wall-Street and NYC isn't automatic. Without any proof, you can't claim it has better name in the finance field than Northwestern in NYC.</p>

<p>My only proof lies in the number of recruiters I saw on campus and the fact that my office of a top consulting firm had many more Dartmouth than Northwestern alums. There isnt any comparable stat showing # of recruiters available. I also know that Columbia business school has 43 Dartmouth alums in the first year class, and only 19 Northwestern alums. Of course, that might be due to NU alums going to Chicago and NU for their MBA. </p>

<p>Who cares how good a graduate econ department is? Its largely irrelevant to recruiting at the top level.</p>

<p>Dartmouth all the way! I was accepted at both schools and the decision for me was automatic.</p>

<p>Hope to see ya there =p</p>

<p>Look on every single companie's recruiting calendar and you will see that Northwestern AND Dartmouth are listed. No need to act smug and all-knowing here; we both know that each institution attracts the same firms. </p>

<p>If you want to get into real facts, we can start by saying that Northwestern has more CEO's than Dartmouth.</p>

<p>Agreed, both schools are top notch and will get you anywhere.</p>

<p>just b/c slipper favors dartmouth doesn't mean he's acting smug and all-knowing (or rather, doesn't mean he's the only one acting "smug and all-knowing"). a bunch of ppl on this thread have been pushing for their opinions and "stats". that's what the thread is for.</p>

<p>anyway, i picked dartmouth over northwestern (hm... mighta said this already). no stats to give, tho; i just fell head over heels over dartmouth (even tho i think northwestern's awesome).</p>

<p>slipper1234,
Your office doesn't represent the whole world. I'd bet the offices of some top consulting firms in Chicago have a lot more Northwestern's alums than Dartmouth's. I live in LA and there are more USC alums than Dartmouth's in Ernst & Young LLP's LA office. It doesn't mean USC is better. </p>

<p>uc_benz,
I do remember when I was at NU, there was a survey on where the CEOs went for college. NU was ranked #4 in that survey. Now, I can't find it through the internet however. Just wonder if you came across the same thing as I did.</p>

<p>Sam,</p>

<p>I am only responding to people saying things like "NU's econ dept is better" when this is largely irrelevant to corporate recruiting, grad school placement, etc.</p>

<p>Both schools have top reputations and get the same firms on campus that HYPS do.</p>

<p>Sam-Harvard and Wisconsin were tied for #1 with 15 each. Don't know about NU.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bus.wisc.edu/news/0106.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bus.wisc.edu/news/0106.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>That's not the one I read as this one is pretty recent. The one I read was published in like 98 or so.</p>

<p>slipper1234: "My only proof lies in the number of recruiters I saw on campus and the fact that my office of a top consulting firm had many more Dartmouth than Northwestern alums. There isnt any comparable stat showing # of recruiters available."</p>

<p>Northwestern:
"Each year 300-400 employers recruit on campus."
<a href="http://othello.mech.nwu.edu/graduate/nu-info.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://othello.mech.nwu.edu/graduate/nu-info.htm&lt;/a> (under 'Pacement Center")</p>

<p>Dartmouth:
"More than 170 companies participate in on-campus recruiting for entry-level positions."
<a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=1998112007020&sheadline=Recruiting%20brings%20stress,%20potential%20jobs%20to%20seniors&sauthor=&stext=%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=1998112007020&sheadline=Recruiting%20brings%20stress,%20potential%20jobs%20to%20seniors&sauthor=&stext=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Right, and Dartmouth is half the size in terms of student body...and all the TOP firms will be at both.</p>

<p>This is yet another futile debate (similar to the Cal vs Northwestern debate). It is pointless to argue since both schools are equally awesome. Both have advantages and disadvantages and one must choose between the two accordingly.</p>

<p>What does the size have to do with anything? If a place really wanted Dartmouth grads they wouldn't decide not to go because they don't think there are enough students. </p>

<p>I'm not saying that Northwestern is better because it attracts more companies, but it just disproves your stupid little argument that Dartmouth somehow attracts better companies. If you want to talk I-Banking, go here, and tell me what you see: <a href="https://www.citadelgroup.com/careers/recruiting_campus_events_schools.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://www.citadelgroup.com/careers/recruiting_campus_events_schools.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Sorry to interrupt the argument :) , but where did the OP decide to go?!!!</p>

<p>BTW - I started out completely unbiased and honest. All these NU people came running with ridiculous statements, and I am defending what I believe is an amazing school.</p>

<p>Being that this has become a defensive conversation, I might mention that Northwestern has never been ranked higher than Dartmouth College in any US published ranking, in the history of such rankings, ever for undergraduates.</p>

<p>Actually Slipper, Goruman ranks Northwestern higher than Dartmouth as an undergraduate insitution. I personally do not think that any good ranking can rank one of those schools over the other.</p>