<p>Agree Slipper, you won't find many ivy grads at the State politics level. But have a look at the start-up companies in Washington and any other State for ivy (etc.) grads seeking non big city lifestyles. I'm 5 years out and friends are starting to look past NYC.</p>
<p>Xanatos -
Mr. Rice was murdered in a twisted plot involving a fake will and an attempt to steal the fortune intended for the founding of an institution of higher learning. James Baker, grandfather of the former secretary of state, uncovered the plot, and solved the crime. He proved that the person who killed Mr. Rice was none other than his BUTLER!</p>
<p>Mini,</p>
<p>He was your US Senator for almost 20 years (essentially 1981-2001) and is your representative on the 9/11 Commission! You say you have no Dartmouth alum making waves in Washington or that has effected your life and I brought one out through a google search in 5 seconds. Your response is "He's ancient history". WOW history becomes ancient in 3 years these days??? Is Bill Clinton ancient history too? My point is just because you are involved in certain circles means your world in everything. I can tell you that I personally know over 15 alums doing very well in Seattle, mostly in Business. </p>
<p>Slade's Bio: Served in the United States Army 1945-1946, United States Air Force, lieutenant, 1953-1956, United States Air Force Reserve, colonel, 1956-1980; admitted to the Washington State bar in 1953 and commenced practice in Seattle; served in the Washington State house of representatives 1959-1969, majority leader 1967-1969; Washington State attorney general 1969-1981; member, Presidents Consumer Advisory Council 1975-1977; member, Washington State Law and Justice Commission 1969-1980; member, State Criminal Justice Training Commission 1969-1980; elected as a Republican to the United States Senate in 1980, and served from January 3, 1981, to January 3, 1987; unsuccessful candidate for reelection in 1986; resumed the practice of law; elected again as a Republican to the United States Senate in 1988; reelected in 1994 and served from January 3, 1989, to January 3, 2001; unsuccessful candidate for reelection in 2000; member, National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States (9-11 Commission) 2003-2004.</p>
<p>Mini, I agree that Ivy league degrees are not at all critical to success, especially outside of the east or west coast. But they certainly don't hurt, and they put you in the running for many many things. If I wanted to go into Washington State politics I would probably go to UW as well.</p>
<p>Back the the Dartmouth/ Rice discussion. I think Rice is the Harvard of Texas, and would be a huge asset for those wanting to live there. On the national level though Dartmouth travels better.</p>
<p>uh oh.....if my dad were to find out that slade gorton was a dartmouth alum he'd probably make me pull my app! we use to live in washington. i guess my perspective is a little bias coming from a left wing liberal family, but ive heard some bad things about slade, and maybe mini is saying that he was something of the past because people are trying to forget him.</p>
<p>Your dad would make you pull your app from a school because he disagrees with the views of an alum from the class of 1950? Geez...</p>
<p>Yeah Kousoke, I hate Slade too. I didnt realize he was a Dartmouth alum, but he sucks. The good thing is Dartmouth has changed a ton in the past 15 years.</p>
<p>"Your dad would make you pull your app from a school because he disagrees with the views of an alum from the class of 1950? Geez..."</p>
<p>probably, my family is really really really strong on the liberal thing.</p>
<p>"The good thing is Dartmouth has changed a ton in the past 15 years."</p>
<p>true, he graduated before Dartmouth was even co-ed.</p>
<p>jenskate1 - yes as a matter of fact I did know how Mr Rice died. Great story. Also knew Rice won the baseball world series year before last - more baseball trivia. But it is Green Wave all the way this year!</p>
<p>No way, Patuxent! lol.
slipper - you've got it backwards - Harvard is the Rice of Massachusetts!</p>
<p>"Harvard is the Rice of Massachusetts!"</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>Lance Berkman went to Rice.</p>
<p>I think this debate is pointless. Anyone worth anything in the corporate or academic world knows and thinks highly of both Dartmouth and Rice. Who cares about the worthless???!!!</p>
<p>What is your intended major? If it is engineering, then I would definitely choose Rice. Otherwise, choose based more on "personality" characteristics of the college, strengths of Dartmouth in other subject areas, and the greater national rep of Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Let me just say:</p>
<p>Dartmouth is better!</p>
<p>Reason:
I just got a likely letter!</p>
<p>enough said.;)</p>
<p>"Mini,</p>
<p>He was your US Senator for almost 20 years (essentially 1981-2001) and is your representative on the 9/11 Commission!"</p>
<p>And so you come up with a guy who graduated from Dartmouth 55 years ago! And who has lived in Washington, DC, for more than 30 years (and had east coast ties to begin with), and you use that as an example of how Dartmouth networking and prestige plays out in Washington State? I think you've made my case.</p>
<p>As for GE, I thought it was Edison who invented the lightbulb. But it takes a lot of us IVY and AWS and east coast school grads to change 'em.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with these schools (hey, I went to one, and sent my d. to one.) But the relative prestige/networking merits of Rice and Dartmouth where I live is a non-starter (and there are so many more with more of both - starting with Whitman.)</p>