<p>We just finished a video in response to a mass poisoning at our college. Because of the no link policy here, I can only direct you to it by saying go to google and search Socialize Wise for the You Tube link. Every college student or college student to be should watch it because it really is students trying to talk to other students about how to protect themselves at parties.</p>
<p>I bet it doesnt happen as much as everyone makes it seem. And i’m a guy, so i dont have to worry about that kind of stuff.</p>
<p>^Hopefully this doesn’t happen at all, the way the media makes it seem. However, it was a huge issue back in the day when I went to college, so at least all the press has made everyone aware.</p>
<p>I just saw the video and it was ok. Thats all stuff i know already.</p>
<p>Personally, I think this whole date rape thing is a scam brought up by feminists. If a girl wants to drink, that’s her own choice. But she should be responsible for any actions that she makes while under the influence. She should not have the right to throw around the rape word just because the next morning she regrets what were ultimately her actions. By spreading that word around, she completely ruins the life an innocent man, just to protect her own image. It’s complete and utter crap if you ask me.</p>
<p>Chemical assaults and rape are increasingly happening to men. The reason is predators know that if they chemically restrain then rape a college male, most will not report the incident. The current estimates I have seen is around 3% of men are raped. </p>
<p>BigKev, Date Rape is a crime called rape that just happens to occur on a date. Currently, false accusations run around 30% based on police investigation of the reports. This means that 70% of the women who claim date rape have indeed been raped.</p>
<p>BigKev you are big arse…</p>
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<p>Avoid ad hominem attacks. I agree with his point.</p>
<p>my bad…but seriously???
I assume you both are guys and don’t know anything about rape, and certainly you don’t have sisters, girl friends or any meaningful women around.</p>
<p>ugh! frustrating!..</p>
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<p>The saying I go by on the Internet is big talk small man. A lot of people use the Internet as a place to blow smoke rather than engage in serious discussion, so the person who is talking biggest is often someone who just is minimized in real life and needs a place where they will be able to talk large.</p>
<p>Still, it could be that what is talking is ignorance, in which case I rarely find calling a twirp a twirp does the trick. Frustrating, sure. You likely have women in your life who you respect, who respect you, and you cannot fathom someone who has neither. The tact I like to take is assume honesty and see if you cannot explain sunlight to the blind man. Bigkev may be a date rapist who is bothered by the fact. He may be a guy who truly has no contact with women and just does not know. He could be someone who does not get out much. This means he truly, honestly does not understand this subject, and can use your advice. I myself would like to hear from you. Watch the video, and let us know if you have good advice, better advice, a situation or example of the advice working or not working. This will give BigKev something to read and may change his opinion / add to his education.</p>
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<p>Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Any other nuthead assumptions?</p>
<p>Well i know when chicks go to frat parties they are only looking to drink alot and then do stuff. Thats why they dress that way. I think its bad that people rape chicks, but i bet usually they have more to do with it then they say. Its different if your a jogger and someone attacks you, but if you are out on the weekend and looking for action, then its probably not the guys fault.</p>
<p>Thank you kollegekid. Everyone is taking what I said way out of context. I’m by no means promoting real rape. It’s just that all the so-called date rape that goes on at parties is for the most part inaccurate.</p>
<p>I’m just saying that women should be held accountable for there actions under the influence of alcohol. If they give consent, then it should be considered consent in the eyes of the law. Who’s not to say that the guy was under the influence of alcohol as well and the woman took advantage of him?</p>
<p>It’s not fair in this country that a man’s life and reputation can be ruined because of something as frivolous as this.</p>
<p>BigKev, the fact that you are wrong is disturbing. In the United States in all 50 states consent is not given just because you are drunk. No means no. It does not matter how you dress, how you act, or what party you are at. No means no. Consent while drunk is not rape unless the consent cannot be given legally (people over .25 BAC generally by law cannot consent to anything, an issue that has gotten shows like Girl’s Gone Wild in trouble.</p>
<p>Now to spin another scenario. You go to a party. You get drunk. Two guys rape you in the hallway. By your standards I assume you are welcoming of these men’s attention to you because you were dumb enough to get drunk at a party, and frat parties / initiations are places where male on male rape is known to happen. My question is, do you carry condoms for when you are drunk and a man has sex with you, or do you rely on him being HIV negative? Do you speak to a man who has sex with you the next day? After all, if you cry rape you are ruining this guy’s reputation when the only thing he did was get drunk and decide to have sex with you.</p>
<p>Carrying it further, since you are ok with guys having sex with you while you are drunk, what about things like object penetration, burns, or bites? Half of all of these women who go to parties who have unasked for sex by this misunderstood guys will be tortured during the sex act. I am assuming since you would not want to ruin these guy’s lives, you would be ok with cigar burns on your genitals, testicle bites, ruptured bowels, cut off ears and breasts, and nose cutting. These guys who you are defending do this to women they have “sex” with. When it happens to you, are you happy with it?</p>
<p>Help me understand how you handle it when you have sex with a man at a party due to your level of intoxication.</p>
<p>But alot of chicks go to frat parties looking for that kind of stuff. And alot of times i bet that they say no but they really want to do stuff. I never herd of people getting tortured that bad, but i guess it happens sometimes. Back when shakespeare was around chicks were always supposed to say no cause it wasnt polite for them to seem like they wanted to do stuff. But theres a difference between someone in a park getting attacked and college chicks going out to party.</p>
<p>Nowhere did I say that consent is given because one is drunk. But the whole “I was drunk, so even though I said yes, it is still rape” is the debate I am trying to end. There is no factual, logical, or even emotional reason for why this should be true.</p>
<p>In addition, if I were to get drunk at a party, and I did not give consent to get gay raped, then it would be rape. If I was drunk enough to the point where I gave consent, then that would be my own fault for getting so wasted in the first place.</p>
<p>It is up to the individual to limit their own consumption to the point where they can still make rational decisions. If I can not make a reasonable judgeship, then it should be my fault for getting myself into such a situation to begin with.</p>
<p>So long story short, you two have been beating up views that the other doesn’t hold?</p>
<p>I’m a girl, and I kinda agree with BigKev. I don’t think girls arbitrarily throw the word rape around when they regret having slept with someone, but I do think there have been too many cases where the girl felt like she was taken advantage of because she was drunk. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re going to drink to the point that you completely lose control of your judgment and actions, then it’s your responsibility to deal with the repercussions of what you drunkenly do.</p>
<p>Like that girl earlier this year or last year who got a bunch of stars tattooed on her face when she was drunk and tried to sue the tattoo artist. In my opinion, he really isn’t liable</p>
<p>Now, cases where roofies are slipped into a girl’s drink…that’s a completely different story. That is rape.</p>
<p>I completely agree with Bigkev and aspire2011. The girl should be aware of her own responsibilities, which include not getting so drunk that she cannot make any conscious decision.</p>
<p>I agree w/ Bigkev and I’m a girl. It really is ridiculous… I mean, if you get drunk and get in your car that’s drunk driving. You’re completely responsible/liable. But you agree to have sex with someone while drunk, suddenly it’s not your fault?</p>