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<p>Actually no, we won’t become socialist. I don’t know where you get that idea. Americans are in general center to very slightly center right. We aren’t going communist and we aren’t going socialist. Anyone who says otherwise is uninformed.</p>
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<p>Unequivocally yes. Like the slavery issue in the 1800’s, this is only a matter of time.</p>
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<p>And it costs $138,000 to house a criminal in San Quentin’s death row. There are 685 in there and only 13 have been executed since 76. The average stay at this point is 26 years but obviously rising significantly every year.</p>
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<p>I do, because I pay taxes.</p>
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<p>Do you know the chances of a criminal escaping from a maximum security prison? lol I’ll take that risk.</p>
<p>A Life > Money</p>
<p>I’m really glad it’s cheaper to imprison a criminal for life. Because I really wouldn’t want to see people choose saving money over a life…</p>
<p>ARGH. Some people’s responses bother me…</p>
<p>Agree with you hatersunite on some points, though you pointed out me being “uninformed,” when really my comment was arepsone to an uninformed comment therefore it looked stupid bnecause its inaccurate…that made sense, i swear.</p>
<p>The point is I’m against the death penalty with the primary reason being that innocent people have died while it has been in effect. I don’t see how you can be for it knowing that innocent people have been executed, and that it will most likely occur again, even if all evidence points to a certain conclusion.</p>
<p>And while we have some socialist-ic (partially) programs, I doubt we will ever come close to being a socialist country…</p>
<p>Hater, you’re an idiot. One, we are not a center-right country. We are a center to center-left country. Two, we already have MANY socialist programs in place. Normally, you are an a** but right, but this one you are wrong on.</p>
<p>Why is this topic switched to US politics?</p>
<p>People need to get their facts straight in this thread. All of you who are arguing about the cost of housing a criminal is too much, it costs significantly more to execute someone. It costs much more (90,000$ in California) to house a criminal that is ON DEATH ROW, than a criminal who isn’t. </p>
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“It’s 10 times more expensive to kill them than to keep them alive,” though most Americans believe the opposite, said Donald McCartin, a former California jurist known as “The Hanging Judge of Orange County” for sending nine men to death row."</p>
<p>That’s just one of the reasons why I believe the Death Penalty is wrong. The whole idea of “an eye for an eye” is ridiculous as well. Also, think about the numerous people who have been wrongly convicted and sentenced to death, and later it turns out they are innocent? It’s cruel punishment and promotes murder.</p>
<p>Abolish the death penalty!!!</p>
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<p>No, do some research. At this moment we do have a Democratic congress and President. But this really has nothing to do with our countries’ political culture. Most people are to the right of center economically. Usually dead center socially. So, combined, maybe a tad right of center. Take a look through history if you do not believe me. (And this isn’t a Republican v Democratic thing like you seem to think. I am talking about philosophy.) The majority of the current Democratic party is dead center.</p>
<p>And what socialist programs do we have in place? Do you understand what true socialism entails?</p>
<p>I don’t understand. What is so expensive about killing someone?</p>
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<p>Wouldn’t letting a known serial killer live and have the possibility of escaping be an infringment on the rights of the citzen to live an feel safe in their homes?</p>
<p>When one becomes a citizen they “sign” an implicit social contract in which they waive some rights (like the right to kill someone else) in order to gain some rights (like the right to not be killed). By breaking this contract, they are effectively waiving their rights to not be killed.</p>
<p>Ofc, haters probably gonna say that this is theoritical… It probably is, though.</p>
<p>"Housing someone on death row is much more expensive. "
Not disbelieving you, but why? I always thought the death row was just a section of a prison. Why would it be more expensive?</p>
<p>Trials… Appeals.</p>
<p>Because killing someones such a big deal, the govt has to spend a buttload of money making sure they’re guilty.</p>
<p>I don’t think I could ever say that someone who was even remotely sorry for a murder should die. Of course, when you get to the ‘worst of the worst’ (think Hitler-level here), there should be no question about the death penalty, but I really think that people should generally be allowed to live (if they choose to) if they seem genuinely remorseful.</p>
<p>^ Death is the easy way out. I’d rather they suffer in prison for the rest of their natural life. Besides, why should taxpayers foot the bill for so many appeals? Trust me, mass murderers get severely mistreated in prison.</p>
<p>I’m not as vindictive. I wouldn’t even wish it on someone who murdered me; I’m just not that kind of person.</p>
<p>Also, if death was provided as an alternative to life without parole, and the murderer in question had the option of choosing death, I fail to see where appeals come in.</p>
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<p>Even Hitler shouldn’t be killed. I can’t promote murder in any way, it promotes a system of revenge. Some people may disagree and say that enough is enough, but I don’t ever see a situation when killing someone by execution is right. Mistakes are made, people are wrongly convicted. I can’t imagine how it must feel to be told you are sentenced to death and still claim you are innocent minutes before you are killed. That is corrupt. </p>
<p>Murder is murder, no matter how you try to justify it. Last, why risk making a mistake when there are max. security prisons for the most serious of criminals?? Does anyone want that on their conscious?? Murder is murder!</p>