<p>What percentage of the pool was deferred? If anyone knows last year’s data that would be good too. Also, on the deferral reversal thread I see people say it is helpful to contact admissions and make a relationship with them. However, at Penn they repeatedly say they are “contact - blind” and the number of times you contact them does not influence their decision. Thoughts?</p>
<p>Contact your regional rep</p>
<p>I did a random search on google.com on Penn deferrals. I came up to a different forum and one person said "Penn accepts 95% of their deferrees", and this was in 2000. Is this correct AT ALL? I can't imagine that being true, and it is definitely the opposite today (Penn states 15% on the website but we can never be sure). Anyone hear of anything similar? Hmm..</p>
<p>I'm also curious if anyone knows what percentage of the pool they defer. Is it a honor to be deferred or do they defer everyone that has somewaht good stats.</p>
<p>I've heard it's 10%-15% for most schools of Penn's calibur. I'm not sure if this is true with Penn, but I know that with other schools, people are defered because the college doesn't want bad relations with the applicant. If someone is legacy or comes from a very good private school, a college may defer the person, hoping they'll find another school to go to before the rejection in April. Then they'll still in good standing with the high school etc. but they didn't have to accept people just because of where they went or who they know. So basically, at lot of deferal applicants don't really have a chance at the college to which they applied just because the deferal was a good relations tactic, not a pending decision. But if you're not legacy and don't have any particular relations with whatever college you're applying to, I'd think that your chances of getting in RD are much, much higher.</p>
<p>I disagree with everything you said. Legacies definately do not get a nod into deferral if they should be rejected. If you look at last year's statistics, the number of legacies who were deferred and accepted is almost identical to the numbers of non-legacies who were deferred and then accepted.</p>
<p>Re en Kam, I am under the same impression that you just described. It feels like I was deferred more because of my Pennsylvanian status and that my school is in the suburbs of Philly, instead of because I was borderline. Although I am not a legacy, I suppose my school has somewhat of a relation with Penn, since in previous years approximately 5 people are admitted each year with most of them attending (it would be unusual to see more than 1 person not matriculate to Penn if he/she was accepted). I feel as though my biggest weakness is the lack of spectacular ECs or any major hook. Reasonably, I cannot win any major awards by the RD round. My ECs are pretty mediocre too, and I don't see how I can improve them either. I'm feeling pretty hopeless I guess.</p>
<p>OP- stetson said in his interview that contact would be helpful, even though it wasn't a direct statement about deferees</p>
<p>In the FAQ section on the decision website, it said 15% of those deferred are accepted. Keep in mind that it's 15% of a well-qualified and filtered-out pool though.</p>
<p>In past years the rate for the College seems to be closer to 10 -11 %, but it might be more this year. They seemed to defer alot more than usual this year. Also keep in mind, that once deferred, some don't stick around and wait. Some will go to ED II schools, and others will not follow up with Penn and continue to express interest like you guys are intending. So, that makes me believe that your chances are somewhat better than that 10 - 15% number.
Knows11 - I also heard that legacies are routinely deferred as a routine courtesy and believed that up until this week. Maybe it is still the case if your parents are big donors or something, but they deferred AND rejected legacy kids in my class - obviously they weren't afraid to reject a legacy if they felt there was no chance for that person!</p>
<p>Thanks for what you said collegecountdown, even though I am legacy, my family is not a big donor, but I would have agreed with you and thought that my deferral was courtesy. That was until I talked to Steve Hamilton (if you don't know who he is, he's the president of alumni affairs). He told me that my deferral was definately not a courtesy, my deferral was due to the strength of my application. I actually talked to him for a good hour and we talked about strategies of getting in the RD round. If there are any other legacies who got deferred I suggest you call him and be polite and sweet and I am sure that he will give you some good advice as well.</p>
<p>now tht i think of it, i was lucky to get deferred. i'm an international asking for a lot of aid. i'm not a legacy and nor do i have spectacular EC's. I didn't send a resume because I doubted it would be impressive. My scores are mediocre. it was probably my essays or my recs tht saved me from a rejection, and aid that kept me from acceptance. just a thought. i could be wrong.</p>
<p>aaron56: They don't know how much finacial aid you're asking for when you apply. But you should try sending a resume. You might not find it impressive but maybe whoever reads your application will see something they really like. And I don't think it could hurt.</p>
<p>My regional rep. happens to be the dean of admissions willis stetson. Is it appropriate for me to call him? Thanks guys!</p>
<p>well, Penn clearly states that it isn't need-blind for internationals and that internationals will get a boost if they don't apply for aid. so they did take the financial aspect into consideration i think. i even got a letter after i had applied askin me if i was sure i wanted to ask for aid given the "scarcity of financial aid available for internationals" and hence lower chances!</p>
<p>darkpenguin - For ED in the past - approximately 1/3 accepted, 1/3 rejected, 1/3 deferred.</p>