<p>So Ive basically decided I want to go to Miami. </p>
<p>I have a 3.67 weighted gpa and a 2100sat (610reading740math 750writing)</p>
<p>I want to study psychology, and I'm really scared about my shot at umiami because of my news from tulane.</p>
<p>I live in fl and go to a top 10 hs with an extremely tough course load with varsity lacrosse and other ECs.</p>
<p>I applied EA. Please tell me what you think.</p>
<p>Frankly I am surprised you got deferred at Tulane. There must be something I am missing, like you didn’t take any or many AP’s. Still, I think you will get into Miami unless there is something in your record we cannot see. Did you take any AP’s?</p>
<p>I’m a little surprised at the Tulane deferral, too. The first explanation that comes to mind is that there was a downward trend in grades.</p>
<p>What’s probably happening with Tulane is that they are over the hump of the Rita/Katrina impact on admissions. Applicants are flocking back. A deferral is not a rejection. If you raise/maintain grades, I’d expect an acceptance from at least one of these 2 schools. But they are both selective enough that you need back-up. What are your other schools?</p>
<p>Not to hijack the thread, but yes, Tulane is well past Katrina (not sure anyone remembers Rita anymore, lol). Tulane got 34,000 apps for 2008 entering class, 40,000 for 2009, and projected at 44,000 for 2010 last I heard. And before anyone says that’s because it is free, it was free before Katrina (2005). They started the free app experiment in either 2002 or 2003. People seem very attracted to the rising academic profile, the public service aspect, and the good publicity about President Cowen in 2009 hasn’t hurt either.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the thread. The OP seems to want Miami and was just saying that the Tulane deferral worried him. But Tulane is still more selective than Miami, and I think he will get in, unless like I said there is something we can’t see in his record that is a big negative.</p>
<p>Well at the end of this year I’ll have taken 5 APs.</p>
<p>I really don’t have any big negatives not shown here.</p>
<p>I also don’t want to go to Tulane and only applied because it free, but was just saying I was worried about my chances at UMiami due to the news from Tulane.</p>
<p>I really hope on Febuary 1st I get some good news!</p>
<p>Well, at the risk of being repetitious, I think you will get good news. Tulane is a notch more selective than Miami. Not by a huge margin, but enough that I think you will be OK.</p>
<p>I have a 3.67 weighted gpa</p>
<p>Although your weighted GPA looks decent, what does you transcript look unweighted? My kids’ transcripts show letter grades, and then at the bottom shows the W and UW GPAs. </p>
<p>So, if your transcript is similar, and your UW GPA is lower (because of too many B’s), that may have hurt you with Tulane. (Just guessing.) </p>
<p>You say that you will have taken 5 AP’s by the end of the year, but if 2-3 of those APs are in your senior year, then Tulane likely didn’t get to see the GPA boost that those weighted classes would give you. I’m guessing that Tulane only saw your 9-11 grades and maybe your 1st quarter senior year grades.</p>
<p>I know that you don’t want to go to Tulane now, but are you sending them an updated transcript after your 1st semester’s grades are done?</p>
<p>However, I’m confused. Are you saying that you applied EA to Miami? If so, haven’t you heard yet whether you’ve been accepted? Or do they have a later round of EA?</p>
<p>Either way, you’ll likely get accepted to Miami because they are more likely to know and appreciate that you went to a top 10 FL high school. :)</p>
<p>Would you qualify for merit from Miami?</p>
<p>I’m betting you were deferred so Tulane could see how you’re handling your senior level (AP) classes. UMiami may also want to see your senior year grades. So make sure you send in updates (hopefully you have a rising trend).</p>
<p>Ya the schools that are aware of my hs (in fl) generally accept alot more kids.</p>
<p>I know lots of kids who go to UM much of which are similar to me, and all which are very smart and I’m sure are contributing to the university.</p>
<p>I hope I get in, but Im sure it will work out one way or another.</p>
<p>One important stat you did not report – class ranking.</p>
<p>On its face, 3.67 weighted gpa is pretty low for Tulane but about right for Miami. Even if you received a bunch of AP B grades, each of those should be 4.0 weighted, correct?. Perhaps I don’t understand how your school weights AP grades. </p>
<p>However, if your school has a tough grading policy and your 3.67 weighted is top 10% of the class, then the gpa doesn’t matter much. Tulane have incoming classes comprised of predominantly top 10% ranked students from their high schools, while Miami has a majority but not overwhelmingly as Tulane has.</p>
<p>Oh, last thing… I agree that Tulane is much more selective than Miami in terms of raw % accepted. More telling, the 25/75 ave. math/reading SAT scores of students at Tulane are a full 100 points higher than those at Miami. This backs up the much more selective reputation of Tulane.</p>
<p>I will just add to DunninLA’s comments, since he brings it up, that you cannot go by UM’s average GPA. They do weighted (obviously) and they are supposed to report unweighted, as Tulane does. It all adds up to you still having an excellent shot at Miami, the Tulane result not being particularly telling.</p>
<p>EDIT TO POST #10: </p>
<p>my SAT data on Miami was very far off. I just double checked and the SAT 25/75 ave. at Tulane is only 20-25 points higher than Miami. This also makes me conclude that the GPA needed is not much different at the two schools.</p>
<p>I wish you the best of luck with Miami, but it appears the two schools are not dissimilar in the stats of their accepted students. On the positive side, because Miami is a larger University, they accept more students than Tulane does.</p>
<p>Where are you looking to get the scores, DunninLA? Not that this is really important at this stage, but here is what I see:</p>
<p>Student’s average stats:
Tulane - Average SAT CR, M, W: 630-720, 630-700, 630-720. ACT 29-32
Miami - Average SAT CR, M, W: 580-680, 610-700, 580-670. ACT 27-31</p>
<p>This is from about.com</p>
<p>Interestingly, UM itself reports the average of the CR and M portions to be 1285 for the most recent class, while Tulane says it is at 1365. This shows that Tulane is skewed towards having more students with really high scores in their top 25% and/or fewer with really low scores in the bottom 25%. So actually your 100 points was not that far off.</p>
<p>fallen… as princetonreview.com site seems to be down, I googled “University of Miami Freshman Profile”, where I found the 25/75 SAT listed as 1240/1380 without any further description… this has a midpoint of 1310 vs. Tulane I have as 1335. [Fast</a> Facts | University of Miami](<a href=“http://www6.miami.edu/UMH/CDA/UMH_Main/1,1770,29532-1;36206-2;41088-3,00.html#Freshmanprofile]Fast”>http://www6.miami.edu/UMH/CDA/UMH_Main/1,1770,29532-1;36206-2;41088-3,00.html#Freshmanprofile)</p>
<p>Hard to get consistent numbers. Here is Miami’s announcement when they go to #50 on USNWR [UM</a> Cracks Top Tier in U.S. News & World Report Rankings | News Releases | University of Miami](<a href=“http://www.miami.edu/index.php/news/releases/um_cracks_top_50_in_us_news_and_world_report_best_college_rankings/]UM”>http://www.miami.edu/index.php/news/releases/um_cracks_top_50_in_us_news_and_world_report_best_college_rankings/)</p>
<p>Here they clearly announce the average as 1285, and that was as recently as August 2009.</p>
<p>I know I saw the 1365 number for Tulane somewhere, but right now here is what I can find: This is a quote from President Cowen during a Q&A in April 2008
[Tulane</a> Admission: Chat with President Cowen](<a href=“http://admission.tulane.edu/president/livechat041708.php]Tulane”>http://admission.tulane.edu/president/livechat041708.php)</p>
<p>And I know for a fact the class that entered in fall 2008 was the strongest in history on SAT scores, 10 points higher than before, so that would be 1360. Anyway, I know it is around there.</p>
<p>So who knows, right now I would throw it all in a pot and call the difference about 50 points. All kind of silly since the OP doesn’t want Tulane, lol.</p>
<p>soooo</p>
<p>you guys think I have a pretty good shot at getting accepted? I really hope so, I’m pretty nervous about the 1st, but I guess that’s life.</p>
<p>and I really don’t want to go to Tulane, so that really shouldn’t be discussed.</p>
<p>I DO want to go to UMiami, and was just worried because I was deferred from Tulane and I was curious how you would compare their admissions difficulty.</p>
<p>Thanks Again</p>
<p>well Miami’s 38.6% acceptance rate last year compared to Tulane’s 27% is encouraging.</p>
<p>anybody else !</p>