<p>Anyone know of anyone admitted after deferral? Friend (?) told me that he read somewhere that it hasn't happened in 10 years. Full of ___ or not?</p>
<p>It seems unlikely. For one thing, a late set of SAT I scores could be markedly improved. Plus outstanding 1st semester grades...</p>
<p>I.e., I'd be surprised based on the fact that an applicant can improve quite a bit from ED to RD.</p>
<p>Without improvement, I think it's relatively hard to get in RD after being deferred ED. It is a guess on my part.</p>
<p>This year, after the massacre at Yale and Harvard in the ED round, there are a lot of kids with great credentials who will be in the RD rounds at the other Ivies.</p>
<p>beprepn</p>
<p>While it does not happen i overwhelming numbers, there are students that have been deferred during ED who were ultimately accepted during the RD round.</p>
<p>I know that one of my daughter's best friends at Dartmouth was deferred during the ED round and accepted during the RD round. (When her mother and I met during admitted students days at another school she told me that her Jan SAT scores improved and she maintained her GPA and her GC sent in some additional information). </p>
<p>Last year there was a poster, CJ that was deferred during the ED round, waistlisted during RD and was ultimately accepted from the waitlist. He ended up deferring is admission for one year and will be a part of the class of 2010.</p>
<p>another poster, oldhag wrote about her daughter's deferral during ED round and how she was accepted during RD</p>
<p>This year, after the massacre at Yale and Harvard in the ED round, there are a lot of kids with great credentials who will be in the RD rounds at the other Ivies.</p>
<p>right here baby!</p>
<p>haha</p>
<p>I was deferred. When I applied, I had SAT score of 1850>650M/670W/530R. Now I have 1960> 700M/720W/540R. My GC already explained my low verbal score when I applied. Will my new score help?</p>
<p>u know what? all u guys are darn misinformed...a lotta guys get in after they are deffered
Many a times they defer u just because:
1) Ur application was incomplete
2) They wanted to see how you compared to the RD applicants
3) They just might not have had time to review ur case (that happens too, trust me)</p>
<p>Guys chill...uve done all u could...keep ur fingers crossed and hope for the best</p>
<p>in her book, Michelle Hernandez (former Dartmouth adcom) states that the acceptance odds decrease to ~5% for deferred ED apps....</p>
<p>you will need to improve yourself in some way to get in.</p>
<p>that means...</p>
<p>boost sat score, win a big award, move up in class rank.</p>
<p>something like that.</p>
<p>The only students who can be expected to be admitted after being deferred are students who
1) the college especially wants (usually because of URM staus or very unique talent)</p>
<p>2) The student's grades through junior year were somewhat lacking/or course load wasn't especially demanding and the admissions committee feels that they MUST see midyear grades before making a decision.</p>
<p>If your grades through junior year are excellent and your course load has been demanding and they still passed on you ED, there is very little chance that you will get in RD</p>
<p>Heard this from a Dartmouth admissions officer first hand</p>
<p>I think the answer you're looking for is that yes, it is possible to get accepted RD if you are deferred, but not without significant effort on your part.</p>
<p>First, you should call in all the favors you have. If you have Dartmouth friends who are students, administrators, alumni, ask them for advice on how to make your application stronger. Schedule an appointment with your guidance counselor to see if they have any connections they could use to see why your application wasn't accepted, and if they can help send in additional information that would help.</p>
<p>By the way, your GPA should be at least an A- at a decent public school (higher at a poorer school, perhaps slightly lower at a competitive school) and you should have at least two or three leadership positions and the equivalent of a 1450+ (2250 maybe on the new one) on your SATs. Those are standard prerequisites. If your stats don't match, then retake tests as necessary, or boost your grades as necessary.</p>
<p>Also it might be a good idea to write a letter to the admissions with your deferral card (if you haven't already) reinforcing Dartmouth as your first-choice school and including any changes since your ED app, such as new awards, honors, or changes in circumstance. Think about asking for more teacher recommendations but only if you're positive they'll be RAVING about you.</p>
<p>What else? Consider more supplementary materials but ONLY if they're relevant. A generic rec from a bigwig alum who barely knows you won't help, and baking cookies doesn't count as "supplementary materials." Think music tapes, abstracts of scientific reports, photography portfolios, copies of a magazine you have articles published in, etc.</p>
<p>And then... that's it. All you can do is sit and wait and know that you've done your best. There are plenty of good schools out there but hopefully Dartmouth will recognize your enthusiasm (shown properly, of course!) and change their decision come spring.</p>
<p>Wow, some great advice/info here! Thanx, worked on a couple of your suggestions. At the very least I can now say that I did everything humanly possible, nothing left to do but wait and see. My SATs, grades, recs are stellar, guess they just don't want me. Visited in the summer, spend the day, had an alumni interview, sent in CD. It's done.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I realized that my other 9 apps look much better now because of my deferral, and I'm starting to get excited about attending other colleges. One or two of my other choices are starting to look better than Dartmouth. Ha! Thanx everyone</p>
<p>yankeeboy,
my S was also deferred from Dartmouth. I had read that a deferral is sometimes given to kids of alums as a "polite" rejection, but neither my H nor I are alums. In fact, the more I thought about it, the more it kind of baffles me. Based on his SAT alone, I'm surprised he wasn't flat-out rejected, but of course I'm glad he wasn't! I suspect his teacher recs were VERY outstanding and we are from an underrepresented area. He also may have had a slight nudge out of the rejected pile from a coach, but we aren't certain on that.
His school is (yet again) recalculating their ranking system/weighted grading and S has moved back up to #1 (although he shares w/ 4-5 others) out of about 470. His GC said she'd send in his updated info.
In the meantime he is being very level-headed about it. He really likes his match/safety; in fact it was his second choice after Dmouth. He has refused to retest....if that means he won't get in, he's OK with that.</p>
<p>Good luck to you!</p>
<p>Ai.</p>
<p>I haven't been back on this board ever since I was deferred from Dartmouth during the early decision round. At that time, I found it extremely hurtful, but now that I look at it, I was pretty lucky not to be flat out rejected myself. My parents aren't alum, I'm not super rich, I transferred schools three times so my grades nor my in school extra curriculars were amazing either. </p>
<p>I've done... a good deal to try and get into Dartmouth again. I still regret applying early to Dartmouth. I did so to get the process out of the way, but my early junior grades weren't stellar (I had just moved and the new school was WAY more competitive). The grades evened out by the end of junior year, but since final grades were averaged, my gpa ended up being not so normal for me. Anyway, my senior grades are A LOT better, I'm a lot more stable now concerning my academics. I wish I had waited out for the regular round, since my grades are fantastic compared to my junior mediocre grades.</p>
<p>I also asked my favorite senior teacher to write a rec for me. We're both a little fanatical (more like insane) when it comes to politics, so we'll see how that rec turns out.</p>
<p>Ugh. I don't know. I've done all I can, I'll just have to wait until April until decision time rolls around.</p>
<p>Good luck to Yankeeboy and anyone else who got deferred. Don't think you're alone, we're all in the boat together.</p>
<p>Don't give up! you are defered, not rejected! just tell yourself there is always room for you!!!</p>
<p>Anyone know the ACT scores of accepted ED applicants, becuase I had pretty good ones, but I got deferred.</p>
<p>Sometimes schools defer applicants who they know are highly likely to attend. They use ED to seal the deal with outstanding applicants who they do not want to let go. </p>
<p>I was deferred from a reputable institution that I will not name and now I find that I really want to go to Dartmouth. Sometimes deferrals give us more time to find out what we really want from a school, so don't worry too much and definately get excited about other schools.</p>