<p>Just got my deferred letter in the mail today....was my first "small" envelope that I've seen so far in my college search so it was pretty nerve-wracking....now I'm just disappointed that I won't get a final decision until mid-April....</p>
<p>They asked me to send my first semester senior grades and that is it</p>
<p>My first semester senior grades were my best so far in my high school career:
A 5.5 out of 5.0 weighted GPA
A 3.83 out of 4.0 weighted GPA (Straight A's besides one B in AP Calculus AB)
Got A's in AP Biology, AP Psychology, AP Spanish 5, Senior English, and Gym</p>
<p>So my real question is, does anyone know the statistics for University of Michigan Ann-Arbor deferred applicants and how many people they grant admission to? I think because my mid-year senior grades we're pretty good, I should have a legitimate shot.....could anyone offer me any insight?</p>
<p>I think that there is a good chance that you will be accepted. Michigan accepts a high number of those that they defer, and you have good grades.</p>
<p>Sorry KyleDavid, i meant a 5.5 out of 5.0 unweighted, it was my mistake. And I know there are more than just grades that Michigan looks at....but if they deferred me then that means that my test scores/other factors must have been substantial enough to warrant a deferred decision with the other competitive freshman rather than a rejection; therefore, I am just wondering if anyone has any statistics on Michigan's deferral rates and if I have a good shot at getting in since my mid-year senior grades were pretty strong</p>
<p>With all due respect Mr. "know it all trizkutt", I did say 5.5 again; however, I corrected myself in saying it was my unweighted GPA from my first semester senior year. I do not know if your school does not do grades the same way mine does or if you fathom the word unweighted, but at my school if you get an A in a AP class it counts as a 6 out of 5 on your unweighted GPA scale; therefore, as I said before, my unweighted GPA was 5.5 out of 5.0 and my weighted was a 3.83 out of 4.0 (no incentives in weighted for getting an A in a AP class).</p>
<p>As for my test scores, I got a 28 on the ACT and a 2010 on the SAT</p>
<p>I think it will be hard for anyone to give you a straight answer.</p>
<p>First of all, Michigan had another record-breaking year for applications. That makes information or trends from prior years less applicable. </p>
<p>Furthermore, U-M doesn't release information on deferrals who gain later admission, so posters who claim to have a handle on how many are working off guesswork.</p>
<p>Finally, Michigan had to change its process after December, so we've essentially got two groups of applicants to ponder--those who were evaluated and admitted/deferred before, and those who were evaluated and admitted/deferred after. It further complicates predictions and means there is no class comparably with this one.</p>
<p>I sympathize with how difficult it is to have that much uncertainty. However, I don't think people can give you very solid answers.</p>
<p>Hoedown, thanks for the information. One question though: How and why did Michigan change its admission process after December? I think now all I can do is wait, cross my fingers, and see come April if I get accepted or not. I'll be waiting in anticipation; however, I have several other great schools to choose from.</p>
<p>I also like to know how could you get a 5.5 out of a 5. As you should know, 5.5 is not within 0 - 5 range. So, a 5.5 out of 6 or a 4.5 out 5 is more reasonable?</p>
<p>I think hoedown is referring to the apps submitted before the anti-affirmative-action law, voted in by MI voters in November, took effect. However, I thought that U of M agreed to look at ALL apps that have not been "accepted" in light of the new law. I could be wrong, of course. But if they are going to keep the two groups separate, they will be looking more with an eye toward attempting to increase diversity on campus from the first group of apps. That could possibly work in favor of some ... just depends who you are, I guess.</p>
<p>I will reiterate this again, my high school goes on a grade point scale of 5.0</p>
<p>If you take an accelerated course (AP Course) and receive an A in that class, it counts as a 6 on the 5.0 scale. If you get a B in that course, it counts as a 5. Therefore, since I got three AP A's last semester my UNWEIGHTED gpa was a 5.5 out of a 5.0 scale</p>
<p>As for the weighted scale, the one which the colleges typically use, my school does not take into consideration accelerated classes. Meaning that if you got an A in an AP class, it would count as a 4 out of 4, and a B would count as a 3 out of 4. So, since I got straight A's and one B, I had a weighted GPA of 3.83 out of a 4.0 scale.</p>
<p>"Finally, Michigan had to change its process after December, so we've essentially got two groups of applicants to ponder--those who were evaluated and admitted/deferred before, and those who were evaluated and admitted/deferred after. It further complicates predictions and means there is no class comparably with this one."</p>
<p>With all due respect to hoedown (I worship the water she walks on), I can't help but be struck by how so many affirmative action promoters claimed that AA wasn't really discriminating for or against anybody, yet when ethnic preferences are dropped, we've go 2 completely different sets of standards...</p>
<p>Ummm, if I am understanding you correctly, I think you have the terms "weighted" and "unweighted" confused; they are the other way around. Correct me if I am interpreting you wrongly.</p>
<p>I believe you may be correct, sorry to all. I continually get confused with these terms and it was my fault. I hope by reading the context of my previous messages though you disregarded the mix-up of the words and comprehended what I was trying to say.</p>
<p>Weighted GPA last semester : 5.5 on a 5.0 scale
Unweighted GPA last semester 3.83 on a 4.0 scale</p>
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<p>It's pretty straightforward: Prop 2 was designed to change the admissions process, so when it went into effect the admissions processes changed. This is no secret; it was the issue that the 3 research U's and the court were trying to resolve when they sought the delay in implementation.</p>
<p>"Completely different standards" strikes me as an overstatement. It's hard to imagine a scenario which U-M would adopt completely different standards and I gather few Prop 2 supporters would want that, either. The application is exactly as it always was; students submit the same information as they did before December 22nd. Grades, curriculum, school opportunities, test scores, essays, SES, should be regarded as the same by readers. The change is that they are no longer allowed to consider race or gender in evaluating the candidate. That impacts some candidates, and not others. The other change is that admissions had to stop for awhile while readers were retrained.</p>
<p>One might argue that the standards have changed for certain URM applicants, men in nursing, and women in engineering. But that's not really the point I'm making and I do not believe that matters to the OP. My point was about process.</p>
<p>To clarify to the person who asked, I think the challenge for Michigan is in predicting yield. [deleted overly boring process info] It's not a typical year for Michigan, and they're not going to be able to use all the same models in predicting admitted student's behavior, so it's difficult, IMHO, to use previous year's results as a predictor for this year's. </p>
<p>Generally I just find it misleading for posters to pretend to have the ability to predict someone's chances, and wanted to lay out some of the reasons why it's particularly misleading in the case of Defers at Michigan this year.</p>