<p>I know that some deferrals do change to acceptances and that there are many instances here – but I too wonder how common it is. For schools that reject during the ED round-- they MUST still have an interest, or why bother deferring? Pleaseadvise, have you asked your GC how often it happens and which schools might be more likely? (I think Naviance shows that actually, though it would be hard to comb through.)</p>
<p>Our daughter got deferred at three schools last December. In March, she was accepted at her top choice after doing exactly what pleaseadvise did - called the three schools to express her continued interest and get the name of the person in charge of her region. Then she sent a letter stating her new grades, continued interest with specifics as to why she was interested in this school in particular, and a recommendation from her volunteer director. If you used the Common App, there was no way to send a recommendation from someone outside the school setting - I think this additional recommendation and a sincere letter from DD were the tipping points. She eventually elected to withdraw from consideration from one after having second thoughts, and was rejected at the other. So there you have it - she had a 50/50 success rate with her top school winning the race! I will say though that it threw her off course enough that we elected to file some additional regular decision apps in case she had “overshot” on her applications - it was great to get the ego boosts of some nice scholarships and acceptances in between deferrals and her later acceptance at Boston University.</p>
<p>last year for daughter’s deferred friends:
harvard: yes
yale: no
different students</p>
<p>this year MIT: ??? crazy number deferred
we’ll see what happens next</p>
<p>@lakemom: deferred is not the same as waitlisted</p>
<p>Hey guys, do you think I should email my regional rep or send in an actual letter? And I don’t know what to say if I call. Also does anyone know exactly how many people were accpeted into Johns Hopkins last year after being deferred? I have looked everywhere. Thanks!
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<p>How can I state this more clearly?</p>
<p>I even know that some schools if you apply ED won’t allow you to move to RD, you essentially shot your wad and your are done. Just another twist to this crazy process.</p>
<p>I was deferred at Michigan and then accepted.</p>
<p>Please stop implying that lakemom and I are uninformed and don’t understand. Many top schools waitlist hundreds of students more than what could reasonably be needed as a cushion for yield. This has been discussed on CC many times. Why DO they do that? One reason is supposedly to more politely reject people they don’t want to offend, such as children of prominent alumni. Therefore, why would it be so hard to believe that they also defer students that they have no intention of reconsidering because they plan to later waitlist them?</p>
<p>Because a school also has the option of waitlisting a student early on – my d. applied to a college via a modified early action program and was notified that she was waitlisted in February.</p>
<p>While its interesting to know that people get from deferral to acceptance, it is near impossible for folks to know why it happened. </p>
<p>Unless its a very small school, I can’t imagine why contacting faculty would help at all. They typically are not involved in any way in admissions.</p>
<p>MIT. Had Guidance Counselor call admissions and alumni interviewer. YOU SHOULD NOT CALL YOURSELF. He had not originally submitted the “optional” supplemental essay because he (typical boy problem in college apps imho) didn’t like writing essays or talking about himself; he’s a “techie/doer”, not a “talker”. and thought his accomplishments would speak for him. Was val at nationally ranked HS, had perfect SATs and SAT 2s, 5’s on 15 APs, Captain of his sports teams and was considered a shoo in by school and peers. Alumni interviewer thought great Ivy candidate but thought MIT would wonder why spending time on sports not research. Submitted the “optional essay” and award updates. Luckily got a fat envelope in the end and MIT perfect fit for him.</p>
<p>Several years ago oldest D was deferred from Fordham and then later accepted. The same day she got the letter that she was deferred she also got a letter of acceptance from Emerson (which she attended), so she quickly lost interest in Fordham. So she did nothing to try and turn the deferral into an acceptance. In the end when she did get the acceptance letter they offered her a small scholarship which I thought was very odd.</p>
<p>Not much data to add, but: from the local HS in QMP’s year, 3 students were deferred SCEA at Stanford (and a number were rejected). 1 of the 3 was admitted during the regular admit period–roughly 10% of the deferees were admitted. Much better odds than being waitlisted, although I also know 2 students admitted from top-school waitlists.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that when a student applies EA to a school, they are generally asking the school to waive its normal admission requirements (receipt of mid-year grade report) to grant the applicant a spot. ED is different because then the student is making a commitment to attend – but for EA, the school is being asked to give a spot in its class to a student based on incomplete information. </p>
<p>There really is no particular reason to do that for an applicant who does not stand out in a particular way – it just ties up a spot. So a deferral doesn’t mean that the student’s application isn’t strong enough for admission, it just mean that the student isn’t strong enough to be granted favorable status for admission. </p>
<p>I don’t know, but it may well be that the admissions read process is different for EA than regular admissions in any case. For example, at some colleges the process for admission may be to have 2 readers for each file, each ranking the application along the lines of “admit, deny, maybe”. If there are 2 votes for “admit” then the student is accepted – 2 votes for “deny” – then rejected – and a split vote or 2 maybe’s might mean that the file will be passed on to the full ad com for discussion. But it could be the full ad com doesn’t even meet to discuss the EA application – it could be that any time a student falls into that “maybe” category, they are automatically “deferred” simply because there will be no opportunity for the file to be discussed until the admissions committee begins it serious work with the RD pool. (This is entirely speculation on my part – but as I think about it, it would be an efficient use of resources — if that process were followed, then as far as the admissions committee is concerned, the deferred applicant is indistinguishable from the RD applicant – it’s jut one more file that is dealt with whenever it comes up during the admissions committee sessions)</p>
<p>I think Calmom might be onto something - again -no data but common sense!</p>
<p>I noticed last year that there was dramatic increase in EA applications at several schools that DD applied to - the EA trend is catching on more and more. I sometimes wonder if as human beings they simply couldn’t get to the increased number, and threw them into a deferred pile without complete info. After all, look at the difference in the time available - only a 6 week period for some EA/ED, and much longer for RD.</p>