<p>I'm concerned about RD apps, yes. "Why did Yale defer me?" is the question I wish I could find out the answer to. They accepted 20% of applicants early!! Not making that cut is really frightening to me.
And my chances of getting into Yale now are phenomenally low. I didn't make it to the top 20% of early applicants. I'm sure as HELL not going to make it to the top 5.8% of regular applicants.
Getting rejected is certainly worse--would have meant the bottom 20% of the early pool. But getting deferred is not better in any meaningful way. I still suck, and I'm going to be rejected. I know this to be true, because my test scores and grades are already perfect (I'm not boasting...see how far those "achievements" got me). The only thing Yale could have found lacking is my extracurriculars, and I can't exactly change those now. So since my application can't really get any better than it was a month ago...there's no hope in my deferral, and I'm not going to get accepted. THANKS YALE.
The saddest part is that, despite all my bitterness, anger, and frustration directed at Yale, deep down it only makes me want to go there more. I want to be good enough.
Have you guys thought about what it would be like to get an acceptance in April? I would hate Yale with all my heart and would love to turn them down, but I'd take it anyway. Thanks for reducing me to this, Yale.</p>
<p>Well, I would just like to thank College Confidential for being a place to vent our anger and distress over the admissions process. It's good that we can express our feelings.</p>
<p>But anywho, I'd have to say that we have a better shot this time around. I mean really, look at who got accepted and who was not an athlete or legacy. There were some other people, but I don't think that they were much better than the rest of us, showing that it is a crapshoot. We just need to send in stuff showing what we've done since we applied, to show them that we are still extremely interested. </p>
<p>I've been looking at my RD choices, and they are looking extremely appealing now. A ton of my friends attend my safety school, UF, and all the OOS schools I'm applying to still look good.</p>
<p>I do have to say though, I agree with you Eli. All the people getting into Yale makes me want to go there even more. Just the thought of being within one of the most elite groups of people our age sounds awesome. I really thought about it after I checked out there facebook group. Maybe we should make a deferree facebook lol.</p>
<p>God, I just feel like maybe if I was a URM, Legacy, recruited athlete, low income kid, first-generation to go to college, homosexual, male singer/acter, etc., then I would have had a much better chance of getting into Yale.:(</p>
<p>I'm just not sure if I made the right choice applying to a school that basically doesn't accept any unhooked ORM's(Jewish/Asian) in the SCEA round. College admissions is kind of like a strategy game and I think I kind of got pw3nd in the first round.</p>
<p>At least Michigan loves me. Thank god.:)</p>
<p>If I got accepted I would be thrilled, but deep down inside I would be a little ****ed. I'm still trying to piece together how I made it this far. It's not quite Tyra telling you: "please pack up your belongings and leave the house immediately" (yes, I just used a ANTM reference), but I feel as if we're all being dragged along for a long ride that will inevitably cause many of us to be dissappointed in the end. </p>
<p>I want to know what Yale wants to see from me, higher test scores? (Well, it isn't going to happen, because I refuse to touch the SAT again... and I just snickered a little when erhswimming, mentioned that his SAT scores were abysmal) My extracurriculars aren't going to change, so unless the teams I am on suddenly become amazing, I don't know how I'm going to float in the RD pool. I know a plenty of people who have been deferred from their top Ivy choices that are now making a bee line to apply Yale RD. I just wouldn't be able to deal with someone winding up at my first choice who really didn't want to go and just wants an ivy name.</p>
<p>Ideally right now, I would apply to Brown, as I've been face with the huge Yale/Brown debacle all summer. But truthfully I have no will to do so. I'm just sitting on my idealistic bliss that Yale will come true and I'll get a lovely letter welcoming me to the Class of 2011. (And Brown doesn't use the Common Application. So right now, I'm just trying to consider if doing Harvard on a whim will get me fascinating results.)</p>
<p>I wouldn't turn down Yale period. Even if they called me at the end of June and informed me I was off the waitlist. (Well, actually that might be a stretched, because there are a couple of non-Ivyies I would love to attend, if it doesn't involve me paying off loans for the next half a century.) </p>
<h2>I do not know. It's just a lesson in life telling me to be patient. I never knew what patience was until this September. It seems to be a reoccuring theme in my life. Yale is just part of the journey.</h2>
<p>evil asian dictator, if it's any concilation, our homosexual male performer with stellar SAT scores (almost perfect), and a fab GPA, was rejected from Harvard...and Harvard likes my school. Unfortunately two individuals were already accepted, but a lot have been deferred.</p>
<p>Don't remind me of all those amazing people applying RD. The 5.8% RD acceptance rate keeps running through my head.</p>
<p>I still remember when Columbia decisions came out, and all those people got deferred. I just mentionally went holy shiskabas. How am I going to get into college? Except we're all individuals. And we're all talented, gifted, and unique in different ways...unfortunately it doesn't always show on paper.</p>
<h2>I would pay good money to see what admissions had to say about my application, and why they chose to defer me.</h2>
<p>Random, but I love how on the Yale board, and for the most part on CC in general people use punctuation and proper grammar. AnD DuN't TyPe LiK Dis.</p>
<p>i was deferred, but i kind of expected it with such a ****ty SAT score and relatively low GPA (2130, 96.2) im not too sad or angry cause i know ill be packing for yale in august anyway :). so its all cool.</p>
<p>okay so all 4 kids from my school were deferred. one, a urm, two with connections, and me. i've heard from other kids that y and h hate our school... i doubt it though, it's probably us. i was surprised that the kids with connections didnt get in though.</p>
<p>No, I'm sure I will get into college, and I know I will get into a good one. But I'm the kind of person who would be disappointed if I didn't get into the most selective schools. It's not about prestige; it's a personal thing. I'm not competitive, per se, I just would hate to be told that I'm only second-best. And Yale just told me that.</p>
<p>Time out.
Being deferred from Yale does not mean anything. Really.
Here are a few things it <em>does not</em> mean:
1. That you're dumb. Stop being ridiculous. I'm sure that you're all terribly terribly smart. Don't be bummed that you weren't "in the top 20% of EA applicants" (see #2). Let's be serious - anyone who applies Yale EA is really freaking impressive, let's be serious. These aren't normal people you're competing against here. They're all freaking amazing. Stop comparing yourself to other people and think about what you can do to make yourself the best that you can be.
2. That you didn't deserve to be accepted. I heard a statistic somewhere that places like Yale reject enough applicants to make two more classes of the exact same caliber. Really. To some extent, it's just a crapshoot. It doesn't mean that these people are more impressive than you and it doesn't mean that Yale doesn't like you. But Yale can't accept everyone. Who knows how they decide.
3. That everyone who got in early deserved to get in as much as you do. Seriously, a lot of the EA applicants are recruits who are pretty much guaranteed admission. They're all cool, too, and they're generally really intelligent, and they definitely deserved to get in, but not necessarily as much as you guys. They just have that hook.
4. That Yale would have accepted you if you were a "URM, legacy, recruited athlete, low income kid, first-generation to go to college, homosexual, male singer/acter". Yes, the college application process is unfair. We all know that they take things like that into account. But ONLY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. Give Yale more credit than that. I honestly don't know anyone here who I think didn't deserve to get in, minority applicant or not. And Yale certainly wouldn't accept someone solely on the basis of those traits. That's just ridiculous. Yes, it sucks, but really, no one is to blame.
5. That you're not going to get in anywhere else. My brother, sister, and I all got into our top choice schools but nowhere else. What does that say? That the admissions process is really weird, that's what. You never know what's going to happen. You could not get into Yale for some BS reason and then get in EVERYWHERE else. Believe me, I know what you're feeling though. Last year, I applied to Yale, Duke, Georgetown, Penn, Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, Dartmouth, and Brown. None of those schools are easy schools to get into. So, yes, come March/April, I was freaking out - especially after my grandfather asked me what I was going to do when I didn't get in to college. In the end, I was only rejected from one and waitlisted at a few others and I didn't even want to go there. I was not that impressive an applicant, believe me. So don't worry.
5. That you should give up. Sure, take your SATs again - compared to college exams, they're nothing, believe you me - try to get a higher score. And if you do, send it to Yale. Write to Yale telling them about some athletic competition you were in, some solo you performed at a concert, some community service you did (make up your own community service project - not just one with a group - if you do it on your own, it's more impressive), how you got a higher average last quarter than you ever have before, how you just finished a piece of artwork that you really like (include a photo!), God knows what. Just make them remember that you're still out there.</p>
<p>Cheer up guys. Some people do get accepted after being deferred (me last year!) Give it another shot, and if it doesn't work out THERE ARE OTHER COLLEGES OUT THERE THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU. and if you go to one of those schools, I guarantee you'll love it.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>wow. I really love CC and how there are other people who are completely voicing my thoughts to the letter...
After all the "oh well, it's no big deal, you'll just go to Harvard" or the other extreme of "omg, now you're screwed, go do 20 bajillion apps", what I read here is quite welcoming. It is sincere and realistic (or as close to realistic as the over-achieving-inclined population of CC can get).
What are you all doing now?<br>
For now, I'm going to just focus on getting other apps out. I'm a little resentful against Affirmative Action <em>hides from attacks</em>. I'm considering asking another teacher for an additional rec. I would be different from the others, but not having read any of my recs-I'm not sure whether the differences would be significant. After this shot to my pride/ego, I'm also reconsidering my other schools, but even though I don't want to not have anywhere to go, I, like Eli^, am having problems with the idea of "settling" for less competitive schools.</p>
<p>I know what you mean, after working so hard for years, and always being at the top of the class, it is a blow to the pride to start looking for less competitive schools. I feel so bad for saying that and I don't mean it at all the way it sounds :(</p>
<p>I am REALLY curious to know what exactly went through their heads when they were reading my app though</p>
<p>I too would pay lots of money (even though I don't have too much to shell out) to know why I was deferred and see what the admissions officers were saying while reading my app...errrggg, if only that could happen</p>
<p>thank GOD I already completed my RD apps before Dec 15. If I had waited until now to do them, I wouldn't have the heart to. I would be feeling so inadequate like "where did I go wrong in my yale app?". So I def sympathise with and give good lucks to you guys/gals that still have to do RD apps</p>
<p>PS- I Love CC!</p>
<p>sorry yaleohten..hate to break it to you...but at my school the only person who was accepted out of 9 was an african american boy and he has far worse grades, test scores, and writing skills than any of us who applied...</p>
<p>thanks for the post, yaleohten. But whoareyew has a point. It's really tough when you see special cases (minorities, people who go to prestigious high schools with dozens of Ivy admits a year) and you know you're just ordinary</p>
<p>Hmm...so people do send Yale another letter? What would that even say?</p>
<p><em>Sigh</em></p>
<p>I'm in the same boat as you all, and feeling many of the same things. Four people from my school applied. Two got in (one was a recruited athlete, the other was one of my best friends who really deserved to get in) and the last guy and I both got deferred. It's just a myth that they won't accept many people from the same school, right? I know that Stanford accepted something like 20 people from my school one year, but Yale has never come close to that.</p>
<p>With 61% getting deferred, I have no idea where to place myself. It's such a wide margin that I have no clue if I was one of the almost in people or one of the almost outs. I guess I'll find out in a few months...</p>
<p>The sick mantra repeats in my head: You didn't even make the top 20%</p>
<p>three applied from my school (we are the only 3 in our class of about 100 with straight A's all through high school--its a private college prep school)</p>
<p>1.one guy who got deferred TOTALLY should have gotten in. amazing everything. his sister went there and his brother. this guy is amazing. one of the most popular and goofy guys..knows how to have fun. balances his social and school life.
2.i was deferred and i know its for extracurricular reasons...i didnt do very much. i also have a very balance life between school and social stuff. i know how to have fun
3.the one girl who got in was a recruited athlete, has extended time, and has a tutor, spends all her spare time doing homework and studying. doesnt know how to have fun. not as much personality. doesnt go to school dances.</p>
<p>yeah i dont know if i have a point in writing this....basically my guy friend so should have gotten in over that girl. me and him are in higher level classes than she is. and weve done extremely well in them while still experiencing high school. so i think were having a burn our deferral letter party..and then were getting wasted hah.</p>
<p>grr frustation.</p>