Deflecting the after-graduation question

<p>"I think it’s funny and a little bizarre that you were surprised your students were so quiet when they had dinner at your house. It seems obvious to me that they would be! Normally a teacher is in a position of great authority. We walk in to class, they talk explicitly about the course material, we get up and leave. "</p>

<p>It matters how you were raised. I can remember being invited to a prof’s home with some other students when I was at Harvard. We conversed with him. I remember learning how he told us that he’d learned to cook when he had worked his way through college as a short order cook. It was truly a fun evening. </p>

<p>“But during dinner, while maybe it would have been ok to compliment the sculpture, asking for the personal story behind it would feel way too much like crossing that professor/student line.”</p>

<p>Funny, I also remember when some friends and I were invited over to another H professor’s home, we did ask about one of his sculptures, and got into a rather sprited discussion about it at his house and afterward. </p>

<p>Meanwhile, S, 20, has long been on first name basis with some family friends who are college profs. He also is on first name basis with some profs at his college. From what I’ve seen, at his LAC, students and professors frequently talk informally together. </p>

<p>The school where I taught and where H still teachers is a public university known for its small classes and nurturing teaching. I was used to having a lot of casual conversations with students. While the structure was formal – in that students called instructors “Dr.” or “Professor,” it was normal for students and professors to talk to each other outside of class. A lot of times, I’d have trouble leaving my office because of students who wanted to chat – not necessarily about their coursework, but about things in general. The students even had seen my own kids – who then were elementary and middle school age-- around the college a lot.</p>

<p>That’s a big reason why I was surprised that when students came to our house for Thanksgiving dinner, they basically didn’t speak unless spoken to. They literally didn’t seem to know how to carry on a conversation with adults. They acted like they had been invited so we could test them on their knife and fork skills. This was a miserable experience for me and probably for them, too.</p>

<p>I can remember interviewing high school students for scholarship programs. The students from the suburbs, the majority of whom came from professional families, knew how to converse during an interview. The students from the city – many of whom were going to be first generation college-- spoke only when spoken to, and gave very brief answers. They seemed to have been taught by their parents to be deferential, but not taught how to converse with adults in an assertive way. Unfortunately, being deferential and giving monosyllabic modest answers is not behavior that results in scholarship wins.</p>

<p>Anyway, when it comes to social skills, it’s important for all young people to learn how to handle the give and take of conversing with people who are older than them. There’s a big difference between asking a rude question like, “Why does your nose have hair coming out of it?” and, “How did you decide on your career?” or “What kind of things do you enjoy doing when you’re not at work?”</p>

<p>Q: “What are you going to do after graduation?”</p>

<p>A: “Well, as you know, it’s a really tough job market out there and not a lot of people are hiring. How are things in your line of work? Do you think business will pick up in the new year?”</p>

<p>NSM: You are pretty much right on that it depends on how the kids were raised. My brother and I have been raised to stay out of the way and not ask too many questions, etc. But as we got older and we used to beg to join the “adults” table and be part of the festivities at a dessert party that my mom used to host annually (because that’s when our mom would cook the best/fanciest meals). To start off, she would “hire” us to be her helpers so that way we could move in and out easily if things got awkward (“You know… I think there are dishes piling up… I need to check on the champagne…”). Once we got used to be part of the crowd and their friends got used to seeing us around, we just put on our clothes and joined in the fun as adults, even when we were 15 or 16. Also it paid A LOT to get compliments since we didn’t always get to hear it from our parents (or even if they did, they were just OUR parents, you know?) so we were happy to be “in center of attention.” Even if we didn’t really know much about them.</p>

<p>But look, since you’ve experienced quite bit of life, you can certainly share a LOT with your students, even if they’re just visiting for a holiday dinner. Even though I’m only 23, I LOVE talking with people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s because they’ve seen so much and have lots to share. You can certainly spin any conversation by mentioning some things from the “old days.” My dad and my advisor were certainly the most notorious storytellers who could compare and contrast the present and the past. My dad would talk of all the technology (or the lack thereof). My advisor worked in the Soviet Union and had many Russian friends and saw the country in transition. Even though we care about our iPods and laptops, we’re still really interested in the past because it’s just so unknown to us. You don’t have to talk about the present all the time- it gets a little old. My brother, who isn’t really much of a history person and is generally an apathetic person, was fascinated by old stories of anyone he bothered listening to. Every now and then I’d learn something from him about one of our family friends, like, really???</p>

<p>Try to volunteer a little information as you prep the meal, their curiosity will get the best of their upright manners.</p>