Denied at BYU and want to change the process

@CheddarcheeseMN - Um what are you talking about. My daughter wrote the essays and did a Facetime session with a professor to review them.

@Sybylla - what are you talking about? My daughter wrote her essays. A professor went through them with her to make suggestions. Really, what are you talking about? I am asking FR.

You just said “my essays.” Arent you the mother?

@Connecticut814 the mistake the AO “tool” made was staying on the phone with you for 2hrs. He should have answered your question and then hung up. Retraining is needed there I think.

@Sybylla - yes we do ALL the mormon stuff. She was a YW leader, seminary, activity nights, church, etc. The bishop did not write a letter but he is not requested to - they just have to do an ecclesiastical endorsement. I dont’ think we have an option to even include a letter on the application.

Yes, two letters of recommendation from her school.

As I mentioned, SHE wrote her essays but they were reviewed with a MIT ENGLISH PROFESSOR before submission for grammar, suggestions etc.

There is NOTHING she could or should have done differently which is why I asked this question in the first place as BYU clearly screwed her.

@twoinanddone - This is my daughters dream school. Not mine. She did get into Brown (with a $125K scholarship) but wants nothing to do with them.

Sadly, most colleges now are just expensive day camps rife with sexual assaults and binge drinking so I agree with her decision to stay in a LDS school area so that she will hopefully be minimizing these activities.

And is likely to closed soon anyway!

@pickpocket - Actually all of the kids at her school did this. Ethical or not, that is what seems to be the “new norm.” These teachers don’t have the time to do it, so she was told by three teachers that she approached to “just draft something” and they will review it and sign it.

I thought it was odd too but again, other kids at her school had the same thing going on so I have to imagine hers is not the only HS that this is occurring in. Cant submit the app without a LOR so what are the kids supposed to do.

These are the most un Mormon like responses I’ve ever seen from someone claiming to be so devout.

Sue away Karen. The lds has a lot of money but not sure they would throw any at you for your psychological damages.

@thebigchef - Um how would they “get wind” of it? And I talked to other parents and they were told the same things for their kids ( I thought it was odd too but it appears to be the “new norm” in high school) So if our HS senior class is doing this (and this is just one school in one state) do you honestly not think that this is not the process at other schools?

And what are we supposed to do, the teacher DID review them and DID sign them? How else are we supposed to get a LOR?

OP, please do enlighten us all how your daughter was accepted to Brown, which is ED? You do know that ED is binding.

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@2plustrio - Please point me to where I said I was devout. I said my daughter checked all the Mormon boxes, but I NEVER said anything about me. And I take that as a compliment.

I am not the type of person who rolls over and plays dead when their child gets screwed.

I do think your situation is different from regular college applications. BYU has a certain mission and it seems odd that your daughter was not admitted based on that mission.

However, I really hope you can calm down with your assumptions about how college students handle themselves at other schools. It is not at all true that colleges are just full of binge drinking and date rape. For your daughters sake, really think about how you are reacting to this. If you don’t trust her to stay on the Mormon path that’s one thing but she can absolutely be safe at many other colleges.

I 100% understand your anger. I really do. I think the people telling you “this is normal” are bringing a misplaced perspective as I do believe BYU is different. BUT you need to get a grip on your anger. Your kid is clearly amazing and she will be fine at any college she attends. If she got a fantastic scholarship to Brown. Let her go! You’re being absolutely ridiculous and letting your own unfounded fear ruin your daughters future.

If she already got accepted to Brown, it was an early decision acceptance that was received in December. It’s February
almost two months after those decisions were sent out.

Plus
Brown gives zero in merit “scholarships”
only need based aid. So any aid she received would have been need based
not merit based.

She would have been required to send her matriculation decision to Brown by now
they don’t give you forever to decide whether to accept an ED offer of admission.

I also resent the workaround description you posted here about CT.

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@CottonTales - No kidding Brown is binding ED. They do not however require you to attend if they provide a financial aid package that we cannot work with. Ergo the $125K scholarship she got which still puts the price point out of reach for us. Any other constructive comments?

@itsgettingreal21 - I wish it was but its not.

You said you paid your 10% to the church. Your daughter can’t do that. You are Mormon. If you aren’t a good Mormon family, why should your daughter get into BYU over other more devout families?

Your daughter probably improved her future self and bettered her chances at becoming a more mature adult by not getting into BYU.

Your daughter is not getting into BYU ever. Any chance she had at getting in as a transfer student you have now destroyed for her. You ruined your daughter’s life. You have not set her up for success.

I’m so confused. Why would your daughter Ed at brown if BYU was her dream school? Would she be going to brown if the fa was more?

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@Tenzimom - Oh, let me clarify then, it was multiple AO tools. Lots of transferring since no one seemed to know what was going on. Hope that helps clarify.

But why would your kid apply to Brown ED if it’s a crappy safety school in your universe?

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