Despite calls for more scientists, science jobs aren't there

<p>BC, is your field A.I.? I know you have been successfully employed for years.</p>

<p>I get the impression that science majors in grad school are encouraged towards academia, which can be years of trying for post docs and tenure. What is so wrong about wanting to move into industry?</p>

<p>Industry does not often appreciate doctorate degrees, nor does it pay for them considering what it took to get the degree…</p>

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<p>I did some AI work back in the 1980s but no I don’t work in AI now.</p>

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<p>I think that this depends on the school and faculty.</p>

<p>I would guess that Northeastern’s Graduate Programs were more geared to industry.</p>

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<p>It depends on the industry. In one of the groups that I work closely with, everyone in the US except for two, have Phds. The two that don’t: one has an MS from MIT and the other was an industry whiz kid when he was younger.</p>

<p>In some areas, you look at the job postings and they want Phds most of the time.</p>

<p>Older son (not the bassist) is doing a nanoscience internship this summer and 95% of the grad students in the program will go on to work in industry. One of the profs told son that if he goes to grad school there everyday will be a job interview since they will be working alongside industry scientists the whole time and that their graduate phds are 99% employed by graduation with excellent salaries. Hope this holds true in 7+ years should he pursue this path!</p>

<p>It is an absolute disgrace how “our” government allows H-1B visas for people from overseas, on the totally unsupported representations by employers that there are no US people qualified.</p>

<p>It is somewhat disgraceful, how goverment allows H1-B at times when unemployment is high. However, I would think that positions that are filled with H1-Bs are NOT the same where there is a glut of qualified US applicants. I have not heard of qualified US software engineers having difficulty finding work. Conversely, have not heard of an H1-B getting a research job in bio or chemistry.</p>

<p>I have seen H-1B jobs given to accountants. Absolutely no excuse for that.</p>

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<p>Likely correct, since biology and computer science graduates are not substitutes for each other in the job market, even though they are both “science” graduates.</p>

<p>Also, even within a major, different subareas or specializations can make different graduates non-substitutes for each other. (On the other hand, many employers are too short sighted in trying to find an exact match for today’s needs, instead of considering the potential employee’s ability to adapt to quickly changing needs over time.)</p>

<p>UCBA – or maybe some employers just want to pay lower salaries?</p>