<p>or for UCLA?</p>
<p>was it a financial reason or another? Reading some posts back many were comparing between Stanford and Berkeley and UCLA’s rankings. Wondering if anyone actually did or not.</p>
<p>There was this one kid who came to Stanford Admit weekend and was deciding between Stanford and a full ride Regent's Scholarship at Berkeley. I just found out today that she sent in her reply card and is gonna be a Cardinal! I am glad my friends and I convinced her to make the right choice! :)</p>
<p>I know several people who passed up Stanford for Berkeley.... it was more for the atmosphere and people than for financial reasons.. not to mention you do end up getting a similar quality education for a much cheapter price.</p>
<p>I know a number of people who chose Berkeley over Stanford too, but most of them are out-of-staters. And one who took a pass on HARVARD for Cal! Unbelievable... Heh.</p>
<p>wow. but if its money, then it's understandable.</p>
<p>Actually, I don't really know why she rejected Harvard... but I don't think it was for financial reasons. I think she just didn't want to leave California... I guess she's a real CALi girl at heart. Haha.</p>
<p>Well... I dont actually know if I got into Stanford or not (Im a transfer applicant so I wont know for a few weeks) but I decided a few days ago that I would decline Stanford if I was accepted, and go to Berkeley. So I sent in my SIR to Cal.</p>
<p>A lot of pre-meds go to Cal even if they get into Stanford to save money because they still got another 5 years of schooling to go through</p>
<p>I passed UCLA for Cal.</p>
<p>I don't think too many people choose Berkeley over Stanford. Here are the OFFICIAL cross-admit statisitics:</p>
<p>"Of the 821 students who declined admission...28 percent said Harvard, 20 percent said Yale, 13 percent said MIT and 8 percent said Princeton. All other universities that were mentioned did not represent more than 2 percent, and no more than 1 percent indicated that they would attend a Pac-10 school, according to the figures provided by the admission office."</p>
<p>It says that "no more than 1 percent indicated they would attend a pac-10 school." </p>
<p>"No more than 1 percent" of the 821 kids who declined admission represents about 8 kids. So 8 kids who were accepted to Stanford chose to attend a Pac-10 school, and they are probably recruited athletes who chose to join a higher ranked football team or something. (I wouldn't blame them). I highly doubt that all 8 kids chose to attend Berkeley, because there is also UCLA, USC, University of Washington, Arizona State, and in total, 9 other schools those 8 kids could have chosen from. Assuming that USC gave some of them a full ride Presidential scholarship (and I know two people last year who chose USC over Stanford becuase of that), and that UCLA and Berkeley gave them full ride Regent's scholarships, then a liberal estimate of people who choose Berkeley over Stanford is like maybe 3 kids. And that's quite a liberal estimate considering they have 9 other pac 10 schools to choose from. </p>
<p>So assuming probably about 1 or 2, maybe 3 or 4, and on the extreme scenario all 8 kids choose Berkeley over Stanford, I highly doubt 1rock1ice's statement that "I know several people who passed up Stanford for Berkeley.... it was more for the atmosphere and people than for financial reasons.. not to mention you do end up getting a similar quality education for a much cheapter price." I also disagree with sleepisabliss' argument that "A lot of pre-meds go to Cal even if they get into Stanford to save money because they still got another 5 years of schooling to go through." Because the fact of the matter is, probably 1 or 2 kids choose Berkeley over Stanford.</p>
<p>Wow, that's some pretty good investigator skills you have there. I never knew so few kids choose Berkeley over Stanford, even for financial reasons. Seems like HYPM are the the ones stealing all the admits!</p>
<p>Princeton, of all the Ivies, is the most affordable. I am surprised that more students don't turn down Stanford, Harvard, and Yale in favor of Princeton.</p>
<p>If you want to go to grad school at Stanford, you shouldn't go to Stanford for your undergrad though, right? Because the grad schools like to diversify the student pool (because students from different schools bring different ideas), right?</p>
<p>Not necessarily true. I know people who did their PhDs at the same school as undergrad. Most people simply choose to leave because they want to leave, or they find a new professor they want to work with.</p>
<p>financial aid only lasts for 5 years right?</p>
<p>Since only 1 or 2 kids (and maybe even none) choose Berkeley over Stanford per year, I can't believe 1rockice said that he knows "several people who passed up Stanford for Berkeley." Haha, he got caught in a shamefaced lie! It is statistically impossible for him to know "several kids" if at maximum 8 people choose Berkeley. </p>
<p>P.S. I knew that almost everyone chooses Stanford over Berkeley, but I was unaware that only 2 or 3 and maybe even none of them do so per year! Considering the large numbers of admits involved, I thought there would be some statistical outliers just as an inevitability of dealing with large quantities. But damn, NOBODY picks Berkeley over Stanford....even for monetary reason. </p>
<p>Lots of them choose Harvard and Yale though.</p>
<p>in other news, I had a friend at the beginning of senior year who said she wants to go to UCLA, and bam- she got into Harvard.</p>
<p>She chose Harvard without hesitation.</p>
<p>i don't think it's only 1 or 2 kids who choose cal over stanford per year. i know of 2 people who did, but i'm sure they can't be the only ones. i also know someone who chose cal over princeton and cal over brown. a HUGE reason is cost....cal is a great school, and getting a great education for half the price is definitely something that's difficult to pass up.</p>
<p>Obviously the statistics don't lie. It's either you or your friends.</p>
<p>I can imagine that quite a few would choose Berkeley over Stanford. How many people do we hear about that considered Berkeley their dream school since they were 3? Like this guy - <a href="http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/05/03_singer.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/05/03_singer.shtml</a></p>