NJ schools are good enough for thousands and thousands of NJ residents every year (and many from OOS). The schools come in all shapes and sizes. Don’t like the name ‘Rutgers’, but you were okay with Stetson and Quinnipiac? From other posts you have made, you are paying more than $32k for your OOS school and you are going to graduate with the full amount of student loans. My kids decided not to do that so if your sister decides on a more affordable college path, that’s her choice.
https://financialaid.rutgers.edu/cost-of-attendance/rutgers/
^subtotal of direct charges (tuition, fees, room, board) at Rutgers for 2017/18 is listed as $28,543
That is without any aid figured in. She would get at least as much Pell as you, more if she is in college while you are still in college as well, because FAFSA EFC would be down.
Then there is TAG which deoends on school I think. There should be a TAG estimator on the NJ aid website but it should be several thousand as well. And she might get merit as well.
If not, OOS she would need enough merit to bring the cost way down, since she wouldn’t have the extra state grant.
@MYOS1634 what are the best NC schools for Psych?? UNCW has a good program but she doesn’t want to follow me to school 
how good is App State’s program, specifically? I think TCNJ and Rowan Honors would be good for her.
@twoinanddone So? What’s your point? Stetson and Quinnipiac are private schools. Rutgers is an unflattering name for a state flagship university. And NJ schools generally struggle to bring in high-quality OOS talent across the board.
What does receiving money from the state have to do with the name? It’s fine to have an “ugly” name if you’re a private school? What??
If these are the arguments you present your parents with, I can see why they aren’t really on your side regarding the “urgent need” to go OOS.
@bodangles I was merely responding to a previous poster; like I said, it would make more sense for the flagship to be named “University of New Jersey” or “New Jersey State University”. Where did I even mention that this would be a point to bring up to my parents?? 8-|
You really need to get over your attitude about NJ. Unless you’re paying for your siblings’ education, you have no business talking down the state or the schools. Your parents are borrowing for you to go OOS and they’re trying to run a business. There may come a time, before your siblings graduate, when they no longer qualify to borrow. If that happens, in state publics may be their only option. They may not be right for you, but that doesn’t mean you should spoil it for them.
@austinmshauri Sigh… 8-|
when did I say that they shouldn’t look at in-state schools at all? I merely suggested they shouldn’t be restricted to only in-state schools. And thankfully, they won’t be. At least, my sister won’t be. She plans on staying in the Northeast, but I’m encouraging her to look a little further afield than that.
Not wanting to go to Rutgers simply because it’s named Rutgers is a pretty weird thing to have.
@LBad96 sorry you seem to be getting barraged by overly concerned posters here on CC.
NONE of us know you and what you have experienced to want to get of Jersey nor do we know your family dynamics. What we do know is that your parents emigrated from Nigeria and you don’t speak their native language. We know they have a family business they would like you to be involved with and keep you close to home. I feel your exasperation after reading these posts. There’s so much more we don’t know and I’m guessing there are a lot of social issues that are contributing to your strong dislike of the people of New Jersey. Does that make it true in general? No, but it doesn’t discount your perception and reality. I wish you all the best in your endeavors and please don’t get discouraged with some of these posts. From some of what you’ve shared, there’s a lot of love in your family and I’m sure everything will work out fine with good communication. :)>-
@CALSmom thank you, it actually was getting a bit frustrating. My parents are extremely fluent in English, so me not speaking their mother tongue isn’t a huge issue. You’re spot on with everything else.
I’m saying it makes you sound whiny and illogical. It’s an overall attitude that’s apparent in your posts here and maybe in your interactions with your parents as well.
For example:
If you wanted an internship near your school then you should have started searching in the fall, gone to career fairs then, applied to anything and everything. That’s what internship-searching takes. So if that didn’t work out, you’re stuck with some traditional min-wage summer job.
And if you’re going to end up working for minimum wage, the money-smart thing to do would be to work somewhere you don’t have to waste that earned money on rent – i.e. at home.
If it makes financial sense to work at home, why reject it out of hand?
@bodangles you know that was literally just a side note, right? It wasn’t even meant to be expounded upon or have any impact on the general discussion here. But, of course, SOMEONE has to overanalyze my words, as always. I don’t have any “attitude” when speaking with my parents, and I certainly don’t need someone who’s only a year older than me trying to talk down to me and lecture me about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lesson learnt, like I said before. I had only gotten the idea of working in Wilmington a couple of weeks before finals.
Just one side note to add to your entire posting history of disparaging universities that don’t measure up to your arbitrary standards. Standards that include, apparently, beach access, how well the name flows, sports success, and just plain being in a state you don’t like.
I really appreciate the eye-rolling and “yeah yeah yeah” brush-offs as well. It’s only to your own detriment if you ignore the advice you’re getting.
Only one year older, but I do know what I’m talking about at least a little bit when it comes to internships. ~$27/hr this summer.
Anyway point is you’ll likely save the most money by getting a job at home where you presumably don’t have to pay for rent and groceries and whatnot. If money is the most important thing, then maybe just work in New Jersey this summer.
@bodangles YOU are not giving me advice. You’re only talking down to me and trying to disparage me, as well as interjecting other things (my “standards”) that bear no relevance to this current discussion. I’m only expressing my frustration towards yours and some other members’ condescension.
Now if we could NOT derail my thread, that would be wonderful.
Actually did – see point about saving money by not having to throw $300 MINIMUM, and likely much more, away for living accommodations – but I’m not the only one you rolled your eyes at.
@bodangles didn’t see that you had edited that in before I posted…that’s a valid point. I just took issue with your tone, and only rolled eyes at those who spoke to me in a similar fashion.
A different perspective which may not apply to the OP. This could very well be the expectation of many first gen and/or URM parents who rely on their children for assistance whether it be communication or financial. These parents may expect their children to return back to the nest.
Both kids have been nearby and far. I expect them to go to find the best place for them to live, which combines economic opportunity, cost of living, nearness to family and friends, and desired physical terrain. ShawSon started college in-state (Massachusetts), (about 1.5 hours away from home) started a tech company while in college, stayed in-state to run it, turned it over to a founder and left for grad school in California. He stayed in the NE for undergrad because of medical issues and we wanted to be in driving distance if anything arose (it didn’t while he was in college but did arise while he was in grad school). He is in the tech startup world and will want to stay in the Bay Area when he finishes school. He is already meeting with leading VCs about his next venture. I did some of my grad school where ShawSon is now studying. I always wanted to live in the Bay Area and my son’s presence there has enabled me to convince ShawWife to spend the winter there each year. (I’m working my way up to 6 months)
The other kid started school in Canada and transferred to finish undergrad/grad school in Boston. She’s a nurse practitioner and while there is a nationwide shortage of NPs, you can’t get a job as a new NP in Boston (except in some specialty areas she didn’t think would be fulfilling). She originally thought about moving to Boulder CO or Portland OR with her best friend from NP school but the best friend changed her mind and stayed in New England. I took my D to visit smaller cities in New England (Portsmouth, Portland ME) that I thought could be fun to live in but also Portland, OR. She decided she was more comfortable close to friends and family and took a job in the same area where ShawSon went to college. As she was looking, she found a BF in Boston so she is driving back most weekends (to see him, her aunt/cousins, her friends from HS and college). So, we see her every other week or a little more now that we are back from California. But, she mentioned that she and BF were thinking, very hypothetically, about where they might want to live including the Bay Area and Seattle. These have to do with BF’s job (he’s in the tech sector), quality of life, and the cost of living (she wouldn’t move to either place on her own but combining incomes, they would probably be fine.
In short, I think they should go where they will have the best life. With luck, we’ll be able to be close by or visit.
I don’t expect my kids to come back. Heck, I am lucky if they come back in the summer to work!
We live in a vibrant, growing area with lots of jobs, so I do encourage the kids to come back here, but I have no control over what they decide.
Sorry your parents are putting pressure on you. New Jersey is a very expensive place to live in some parts. You can beg off. I am from New Jersey and my parents never begged me to stay, so I felt a little hurt! So take it as a sign that they love you! My own sons went to colleges more than 1000 miles from me, and one is going to grad school 1500 miles from home. I expect them to follow their dreams. I would advise you to do so as well, but just visit New Jersey once a year if you can afford it.