<p>"To be honest people’s efforts should be placed towards making real friends and a social circle…not looking for the best way to get drunk and do stupid **** every night/weekend/etc. "</p>
<p>Most students who are actually here to learn don’t do that. At least, not every weekend/ every other weekend.</p>
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But didn’t you say that people can both party insanely yet also study hard, using Dartmouth as an example? I kind of wonder if it’s mostly the hooked kids who disregard academics entirely and just party all the time. That would really be almost insulting to the non-hooked and ORMs who didn’t get in and the school itself.</p>
<p>I’m kind of ill-informed about what even happens at college parties. At my high school, it’s just a bunch of idiots getting drunk while listening to lousy music, and then passing out or being promiscuous.</p>
<p>people who don’t have the self-control or judgment will end up like that</p>
<p>it has nothing to do with being hooked or not…think about who is the stereotypical frat kid</p>
<p>But didn’t you say that people can both party insanely yet also study hard, using Dartmouth as an example? I kind of wonder if it’s mostly the hooked kids who disregard academics entirely and just party all the time. That would really be almost insulting to the non-hooked and ORMs who didn’t get in and the school itself.</p>
<p>The only hook most IFC fraternity/Panhel sorority members have is probably that they’re legacies. That’s my guess based on the observed demographics of those groups.</p>
<p>*I’m kind of ill-informed about what even happens at college parties. At my high school, it’s just a bunch of idiots getting drunk while listening to lousy music, and then passing out or being promiscuous. *</p>
<p>This pretty much. Except you may see lines to get into said parties, dancing, and maybe even costumes/decorations. For a frat, running a party is quite the financial investment. And there is some sense of liability on their shoulders.</p>
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Saugus:
You seem to be burdened by a myth that smart kids spend all their time studying or working hard at ECs and graduate to leave everybody else in the dust. That’s not true and that’s why you don’t see alumni of any schools obsessing over ambiguous differences and subjective differences.</p>
<p>You may be right about BYU given their strong religious affliation, but Notre Dame is mostly Catholic in name only and had a very solid party scene. Given how relatively easy business school is in comparison to other majors, business majors are usually among the most intense partiers on any campus, even in prestigious programs like Penn Wharton. Heck - Harvard and Yale have pretty legendary party reputations. These are all work hard - play hard schools.</p>
<p>From the older people I know, I’d say the 1940s - 1970s were the most intense, wild college party years at top-ranked schools before regulations and oversight started creeping in. I grew up exposed to the college party scenes and watched people with the most outrageous, sick stories go on to be in the top of their fields.</p>
<p>That doesn’t change either. The summer beach house party scene on the east coast is full of people who went to great schools, party hard from Friday night to Sunday morning straight, then go back to often powerful and respected jobs during the week.</p>
<p>There’s nothing magical about any of these schools or their students. I’m surrounded by graduates with one or multiple degrees from many of these schools and they’re simply well-educated, not necessarily more effective at managing people or more creative problem-solvers or harder workers. Frankly, some of them use their school reputations to the point that they get easily trumped by others willing to work harder and smarter.</p>
<p>So: smart kids party. Smart schools have large party scenes. You don’t have to partake in any of it.</p>