<p>Well its a point of time right now when I have to decide which courses I should self study for the AP classes. The science department in my school is weak so I'm thinking about selfstudying for either AP bio or AP chem. Which self-study would be more beneficial for JHU?</p>
<p>just want to clear something up...so basically all the english ap tests and history ap tests don;t count for any credits? and if we do take bio/chem ap w/ a 4/5 is it suggested that we still retake the courses? or is it considered ok and reasonable that we just advance on to the next course which requires that bio/chem as prereqs? would this answer change depending whether premed or just grad school?</p>
<p>AP chem is a lot more difficult than AP bio, esp with the new test format this year. So I wouldn't recommend it unless you're really superb at chem.</p>
<p>yea of course...ap chem you can;t really study byyourself...only bio</p>
<p>Most people I know at Hopkins who had AP credit took advantage of it and skipped the intro level courses. I know everyone is worried that they won't remember the stuff from their AP classes, but in reality, the people who take the college classes forget a lot of stuff between semesters too. Plus, Organic Chemistry (which you would take after intro chem if your major required it) doesn't require you to remember too much Intro Chem. The second year Bio classes (Cell Biology and Biochemistry) don't even have General Bio as a prerequisite. For Calculus, of course, you do need to know your Calc 1 decently well for Calc 2 etc, but no one is going to expect you to remember every detail (Do you think people who take calc 2 in the spring of their freshman year remember all the material when they take calc 3 in the fall of sophomore year?)</p>
<p>If you're not premed and you think you have a decent grasp of the material, there's little reason not to skip. Even if you are premed, depending on your major, you might have to take upper level science/math classes anyway, so I think its best to skip the intro level course. Take a look at this</a> chart that pre-professional advising put together to help pre-meds decide how to use AP credit. Overall, regardless of where you're planning on going to college, I would recommend you take the AP exams that you might get credit for, see how you do and then talk to your adviser and to other students over the summer and decide what classes to register for.</p>
<p>Also, even though I think the AP classes are enough to cover what you need to know for more advanced classes, some of the intro classes here go beyond what's taught in the AP curriculum - Calc II for Bio majors covers some basic differential equations and multivariable calculus (since it's expected that if you take that class, you won't take any more math classes), there was some stuff my friends were learning in Intro Chem II that I had never seen before, and Physics for Bio Majors II even gets into Special Relativity (again, Bio majors aren't expected to take any more physics-related classes). So if you do decide to retake courses for which you have AP credit, you will cover new material; however, you probably won't be expected to know this new material for future courses.</p>
<p>thank you that really clears up alot of things</p>
<p>yep thanks. hmm i think I'm gonna try to selfstudy for bio.</p>
<p>Let me just second tanman's advice. I'm a sophmore @ JHU came in with no APs relevant to my major and didn't skip any classes. I have regreted it, I could've started further on and taken more advanced electives and major classes. </p>
<p>Intro to Chemistry + Lab can sometimes be a painful experience.</p>
<p>hmm... how about AP bio. I hear a lot that intro to chem is a tough class, but what about the intro bio class.</p>
<p>are you premed? I don't know if it intro bio is a hard class but judging from the material covered in AP Bio it's simply a useless class that's good to skip if you can.</p>
<p>tanman regarding the excel file, what does the comment regarding to students from california mean?</p>
<p>yeah i'm premed going into the neuroscience major.</p>
<p>tanman, just out of curiosity, what's your major?</p>
<p>tanman is BME -- and he is the most knowledgable student at Hopkins. Listen to his advice, he will not guide your wrong.</p>
<p>"In general, we recommend Hopkins students accept their AP credit unless the student is a resident of California."
can someone please explain to me what is meant through that?</p>
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<p>"he is the most knowledgable student at Hopkins ".. lol.. I seriously doubt that.</p>
<p>I think the deal with California is that some of the California public medical schools don't accept AP credit for admissions. At least that's what I've heard.</p>
<p>california just has to do everything different.</p>
<p>O.o.........</p>
<p>anyhow, thanks tanman for the forum link lol =D</p>