<p>@coolweather:</p>
<p>LOL. Pretty certain that Apple(/Google/etc.) hire at Cal as well. What’s the cost difference for in-state between Cal and SJSU?</p>
<p>IBM hires a lot of SJSU.</p>
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<p>Don’t listen to that. Who knows whether Apple will still hire from SJSU 10 years down the road? What if OP doesn’t want to work for Apple all his/her life? What if Apple outsources more tech jobs to other countries over the next few years? You don’t want to put all your eggs one basket. Going to an ivy league school will give you the most opportunities possible. Even if one industry is thriving today, it may die down tomorrow, and an ivy league education will equip you with the ability to be successful in any industry. Even UCB can give you the skill set required to adapt to today’s fast-changing world. SJSU is NOT the solution. </p>
<p>@rhandco:</p>
<p>You’re not full-pay, so your cost difference isn’t that big. However, a kid who can get in to an Ivy can get a decent amount of merit money from other privates. I already mentioned that Bard and Richmond have full-tuition scholarships (as do W&L, Scripps, etc.). Getting enough merit aid from schools like Union/RPI/WPI so that the cost is close to in-state public cost also should be possible for a high-achieving kid.</p>
<p>And as an aside, personally, I think that the history of a place has little to do with its intellectual ferment or anything else that I consider important in a school.</p>
<p>And I’m not sure why I’m not allowed to compare full-tuition at Pitt/UMD/Richmond/Bard vs. Ivy as well as in-state tuition at Cal/UMich/UVa vs. Ivy.</p>
<p>You still haven’t told me in which states in-state COA would be $45K a year.</p>
<p>Students who can get into Ivies are usually also good candidates for competitive fullrides at schools like Duke, UNC-CH, etc.</p>
<p>Of course no one should aim for any company either Apple or Google or any Ivy League school either.</p>
<p>@scholarme:</p>
<p>Actually, I would say that getting one of the 60 full-tuition scholarships at Duke is far more difficult than getting in to HYPSM. You’re talking about a true Ivy-equivalent (offers as much opportunities in everything as any Ivy) and there are only 60 of those compared to the thousands of admittances to HYPSM each year.</p>
<p>BTW, of the folks I personally know from my startup days, one of the 2 most successful is an SJSU grad.</p>
<p>If you’re curious to know (though most high schoolers reject this observation), being smart, driven, hard-working, and having great people skills is the solution, regardless of the school you go to.</p>
<p>Purple, it’s hard been 17.</p>
<p>@patertrium
i just tried Columbia’s NPC with 150,000 income, 5 exceptions, zero savings, no primary home, zero investment, zero everything for the student and got the same amount as @rhandco ($33K). You probably have a lot of savings, equity, etc.</p>
<p>There is no question that it is more difficult to win a merit scholarship at Duke than it is to be admitted to HYPSM. Duke’s merit scholars would likely be at the top of their classes at any of those schools and if you focus on per capita accomplishment, the AB Duke scholars alone would outshine virtually any other cohort of undergraduate students in the world. </p>
<p>Comparing Duke’s scholars to regular students at HYPSM is like comparing a member of the elite Russian Spetnaz to a regular American GI. It just isn’t a fair fight. </p>
<p>@scholarme If you believe that someone who is likely to be admitted to Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia or Cornell is a good bet for a full ride at Duke, you are truly ignorant about the American education system!</p>
<p>@femaleBlueDevil The two don’t seem equivalent - knowledge of the Duke full ride and knowledge of the American education system. Why are you so defensive about Duke? Sounds a little - insecure.</p>
<p>Wow, way to sling the insults, femaleBlueDevil. At least ignorance can be corrected by learning, pugnaciousness is usually untreatable.
I should have said HYP, rather than lump all the Ivies. Nevertheless, the applicants to the Robertson scholarships are also typically good candidates to HYP; I think a lot of them end up picking between full ride at Duke vs going to one of the HYP.</p>
<p>@scholarme:</p>
<p>Sure, but while getting a full-tuition scholarship to Duke means you’re likely to get in to HYP, getting in to HYP does not mean you are likely to get a Duke full-tuition scholarship.</p>
<p>60 of one vs. thousands of the other each year.</p>
<p>@2018dad Thanks for running that. Yes we’re in CA and home equity is pretty high. I have about 1.5 years of HYPSM all-in saved for S1 in ESA, 529. Then 1 year for S2 and S3 (the boys are 17, 15, 13). All of that sounds pretty good until you tally up at least 750k total for the trio at these private schools. UCB, UCLA, UCSD in that light seem to make much more sense unless there are some grants to equalize. S1 is writing his UC essays at this very moment. We’ll apply to some of the HYPSM (and CMU - he’s a Comp Sci kid) too and just see where things are with the money come April. CMU’s formal estimate from their Fin Aid Dept. was $64k all in - which does not bode well for the budget.</p>
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<p>@patertrium: If your kids are really impressive, applying to elite privates like Rice and JHU who are well-respected in engineering and actually give out some big merit scholarships may make sense. Possibly WashU, Vandy, and USC (USC especially if their PSAT is high enough for National Merit) as well.</p>
<p>Also, I would not overlook UCSB’s College of Creative Studies or UCI honors for CS. Maybe CalPoly-SLO as well.</p>
<p>DrGoogle: Invest Banking after 10 years: Impossible to make only 250K in NY. Reason: If you stay in that long, you are at the very least a Sr. VP, and even their base salary exceeds that. Real income is in bonuses, which are several multiples of base salary in good years, and always exceed the base salary any way(unless bank is sinking!)</p>
<p>I could be wrong but I am under the impression Robertson scholarship is looking for different attributes than the overall Duke tuition waiver scholarship winners. Is Duke determining who wins these scholarships or is the foundation selecting them?</p>
<p><a href=“http://robertsonscholars.org/selection-criteria/”>http://robertsonscholars.org/selection-criteria/</a></p>
<p>@PurpleTitan Thanks for those heads-ups. I hadn’t heard of the UCI Honors program. I will look into that more. Irvine also has a big Asian languages offering which is the other piece of our puzzle - that and comp sci. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.honors.uci.edu/highlights.php”>http://www.honors.uci.edu/highlights.php</a> UCI Honors Program info. </p>
<p><a href=“http://cs.brown.edu/people/alexpap/faculty_dataset.html”>http://cs.brown.edu/people/alexpap/faculty_dataset.html</a> Brown comp sci department/prof data set</p>