<p>She is not on academic probation but isn’t achieving the GPA to major in what she wants to major in…it sounds like she is capable of producing low B/C work at a college level or at a less rigorous college level than perhaps your other children…if you can afford it and if she wants the 4 year experience is there not an alternative major path that might be related to whatever she wanted her major to be? (apologies for the rotten sentence structure I’m tired tonight). Is there a different college that has her major but doesn’t have the academic GPA restrictions?</p>
<p>both my kids have math related disabilities ( as do I)
processing speed is a factor- dyslexia ( order of operations) and short term memory.
My oldest majored in bio at Reed, has taken organic chem ( she was doing fine till spring final @ Reed), microbio, calculus & stats in college- younger daughter took physics , chem and pre-calc in high school.
I would bet that they don’t have their times tables memorized because that is something that unless you use it every day- it just doesn’t stick.
( they have accomodations)</p>
<p>I had to take a math placement test for a soils class I was taking in my program- I hadn’t studied and I also hadn’t taken math for years.
Because I have learning differences I was allowed to take the test on paper ( nowdays everything is on the computer, but you can’t go back and check your work or change an answer)
I had no idea how to do the problems ( I thought) I believe the class required- through college algebra.
I went through the booklet, answering all the questions but not really knowing what I was doing.
However- I passed the placement test- apparently I had retained enough to figure out the correct multiple choice answer!</p>
<p>Ask her if she had more time for tests, if that would make a difference- people with ADD need more time, because an inefficent part of the brain, is often the one doing the work</p>
<p>“Daughter is enrolled in a math course and son has devoted about 5 hours each week helping her. It is not an extremely difficult course and with practice she should have been able to perform well. She attends every class and has contacted the professor by e-mail today requesting a meeting during office hour.”</p>
<p>Why did she choose to take a math course? Is it required for her major or for her to graduate from college?</p>
<p>I am ADD, and make the kind of math errors that others have posted that ADD people make. I check and recheck my work, but still make errors. I had to take statistics in graduate school and felt fortunate to pass it with a “C”. </p>
<p>What is the OP’s D majoring in? If it’s a subject that requires lots of math, she probably needs to switch majors.</p>
<p>Having a problem with math doesn’t mean that she can’t get a college degree, however. There are plenty of fields that don’t require one to take math. If the college she’s attending requires all students to take a math course, she may need to switch to one of the many colleges without such a requirement.</p>
<p>My daughter only needed two math courses for her degree requirements. This is the second and last one that she will be required to take. She is not in a heavy math or science major. She experiences difficulty with short term memory and has always needed to study much longer than the average non ADD person. She did this when she lived at home and of course I have no idea what she has done in college. She cries easily and as soon as school is mentioned the tears just flood and no words are spoken. The whole issue of school is so anxiety provoking that I really don’t know how she herself can continue to want this. As I said earlier the thought of not getting a college degree scares the heck out of her and she does not see any other way to success then holding the degree.
As far as changing majors-her major GPA is a 3.7. She is struggling with core classes. She just does not perform on tests and the information seems to leave her shortly after she has studied. I would often tell her that she needed to study daily so the information was processed but again I don’t know what was going on at school.
I was always concerned about her inability to verbally communicate her feeling, ideas,and thoughts. She misunderstands any form of critiquing as criticism which has led to some nasty words on her part. With all this said she is sweet and lovable when school, life time goals, and careers are not mentioned. As soon as any of the topics I just mentioned are brought up my daughter seems to go into a shell and contributes nothing. Her eyes seem to glaze over and will dart back and forth like fear has struck.
Another thing that people close to her have always said, She can not admit when she has made a mistake or has done something wrong and lately I would go as far as saying that she seems almost emotionless. She does not seem to understand that people may be hurt and that she caused it. She is not able to maintain a deep relationship with peers or extened family, her old boyfriend was the exception to this.He understood her well and trully loved her. I still believe they broke up when he started to make professional goals that seemed to intimidate her. I remember the look on her face when he told her about his future professional goals. She showed no interest or excitement that he had found his passion and in fact, she seemed almost sad. Two months later they ended abruptly without any sign or warning that things were not going well.</p>
<p>I have also noticed that she can not sit through most movies-not able to follow a plot and she does not find any type of reading pleasurable. In fact she does not find any type of activity pleasurable. She has never said, I love to do this or I am looking forward to doing that-NEVER.
As you can see I am spending every waking moment trying to understand what is going on and I feel like I am a parent searching for a cure for their sick child. It is heart breaking to see all the pieces come together screaming, BIG PROBLEM AHEAD. </p>
<p>Does this sound familar to anyone? I also want to add that she is a very attractive and petite young lady that gives the appearance that she is more together then she is. Her lacking self confidence is evident once you try to engage her.</p>
<p>Momma-three- my sympathies to you for what seems to be a very difficult and trying situation. I think that the doctor’s appointment is a great idea- time to engage the professionals.</p>
<p>Agree that it’s time to call in the cavalry.</p>
<p>If it’s any comfort… I am taking a summer class at a local CC right now and I am blown away by the students I am meeting. Some of them are just there for fun- like me. Some of them are balancing full time work and steadily progressing towards a degree. Most of them already have a BA and are taking pre-req’s for grad school or for a major career change. </p>
<p>A lot of the hallway and coffee break chatter revolves around how much better the CC class is going than previous attempts to master the material. Particularly math and science (many former corporate types now applying to health sciences grad programs so they need to get credits in anatomy, calculus, lab science).</p>
<p>If you can help your D see that CC is not a punishment-- just an alternative way to get to a good place professionally and academically-- maybe she can see it for the opportunity that it could be.</p>
<p>This CC has a vo-tech type program which offers certificates in floral arranging, lighting design, interior decorating… but it’s also chock a block filled with young adults who want to be Dr’s and physical therapists and computer game designers and architects. So it’s ok that her path may be different-- or longer-- but agree that sorting out her mental health issues is more important than focusing on her return to her college.</p>
<p>It sounds like there are some problems…but she is maintaining a GPA of 3.7 with these problems? With all of the texting? That is amazing, and hardly a reason to leave school if she loves school. Am I missing something?! She sounds somewhat extraordinary.</p>
<p>"As far as changing majors-her major GPA is a 3.7. She is struggling with core classes. She just does not perform on tests and the information seems to leave her shortly after she has studied. "</p>
<p>I agree with Balletmom that this is very impressive. What is her major? How many classes has she taken in it?</p>
<p>Has she been assessed yet for learning disabilities?</p>
<p>Momma-three, I feel for you and your daughter is lucky to have you in her corner. My D has a friend who has similar problems focusing on TV programs and even following conversations with her peer group (of course, girls that age many times talk all at once over each other so I have trouble following them too). D has commented that this girl absolutely cannot watch TV and have a conversation at the same time. She has a diagnosis of ADD and D thinks there may also be a learning disability of another sort. This girl takes her exams for her classes in the disability services office or through their office so she’s in a quieter environment when she’s testing and she has an extended period of time to take the exams. Perhaps that’s something to look into later on after you have a clearer picture of what’s going on with her medically.</p>
<p>'As far as changing majors-her major GPA is a 3.7. She is struggling with core classes. She just does not perform on tests and the information seems to leave her shortly after she has studied. "
I don’t get it. if she has a 3.7 gpa in her major, then what is the reason she needs to withdraw from college??? College classes are going to be HARDER than HS classes! Lots of kids struggle, especially those with LD’s! Is that reason enough to withdraw? Not based on her current GPA. I think your D needs to take some deep breathes and try to relax and not beat her self up, and you need to let her know that you are proud of her, and encourage her to not give up, just because she is having some difficulties.</p>
<p>Definitely have her evaluated by an educational psychologist. What you’re looking for is the loooong suite of tests: nine hours or so. Expect it to cost $2000 or more-- sounds expensive, but it’s cheaper than failing classes. A good educational psychologist will not only diagnose her learning disabilities if she has any, but will diagnose her strengths and explain exactly how she can work around her challenges, and what accommodations will help her.</p>
<p>I am not a professional, but she sounds to me like a very bright girl with some learning disabilities.</p>
<p>If her only problem is math, then I have known college students in nonmath majors who had to take required math classes 3 times before passing the class, but otherwise did fine in college, and got their degrees. Some people find math extremely difficult, no matter how hard they study.</p>
<p>Summer classes also move faster than do classes during the semester so it’s possible that her summer community college math class is harder than was a similar math class at her 4-year college.</p>
<p>Yes Her major GPA is high but her core GPA is 1.7 or 8 and the total GPA is 2.7. The school requires a 3.0 in all three GPA areas or she can not continue with her major.
I know that a long thread is alot to keep up with but we are not placing unrealistic demands on her and I am very familar with the program of study. It is the core that is a problem and all of the classes are 3 credits and require 18 credits 7out of 8 semesters. She can not juggle 6 classes a semester. She dropped one course late and got a W and earned a D in another course. Yes she did still manage a 2.7 total, but the core was pretty bad. It would be alot of catch up and pressure to get A’s in courses that she just can’t seem to handle.</p>
<p>What is her major? Is it something like dance that isn’t that academic?</p>
<p>What were her h.s. stats – gpa, scores?</p>
<p>Look, it’s fun for us to play problem-solver over the Internet, but it’s time to call in the pros, momma-three. Pick up the phone and make an appointment with an educational psychologist.</p>
<p>I agree with Cardinal Fang.</p>
<p>I have provided so much information that if I devulge her major than friends will certainly know who this is. She is in a professional degree program that is academic but not overly taxing.</p>
<p>H.S GPA - 3.08 good town school
3 A.P classes never took an A.P exam</p>
<p>Yeah. Don’t divulge any more information. Cardinal Fang is right. Get her evaluated, for her sake and yours. For one thing, a good evaluation will help her to discover the things she needs to do for herself in order to be successful in life, even beyond school. There are things she needs to know about her mind, and how it works, and it would be really beneficial to her to know these things so that she can accomodate herself and make good choices for her future, as you will not always be there to make those choices for her. Good luck! Your D is fortunate to have involved and caring parents. when you look for a professional to evaluate her, find the one who will discuss strategies with her and not just give her a piece of paper full of test scores.</p>
<p>Make sure the professional also will help your D recognize her strengths and learn to utilize them more.</p>
<p>Poetgrl is right. Make sure the evaluation includes lots and lots of tests (IQ test, achievement tests, various neurological/psychological tests) AND a looong written report with the test scores and recommendations for accommodations AND a meeting (two would be better) where the professional explains the results to your daughter. Do not pennypinch. Get someone who knows what she’s doing.</p>