<p>A few of the many excellent meals I can remember from my chow call days: Eggs and legs for breakfast; sliders;foot long hot dogs with Texas sauce; Maryland Fried Chicken; crabcakes (I had to whamo 4 at one time); cannonballs with hard sauce; Kansas City Steaks with sauteed onions and mushrooms and Baked potatos; bananna splits;pizza; fresh ham; roast beef; submarine sandwiches; various pies and cakes; salisbury steaks; curry with condiments; veal cordon bleau; prok chops; fish. These are just a few I remember. However, my favorite was strawberries and ice cream for breakfast.</p>
<p>^^^^^
grad/dad,
Are we talking about the same place???</p>
<p>grad/dad...are you serious? that sounds too good to be true...</p>
<p>eggs and legs????????? :eek:</p>
<p>what on earth?????</p>
<p>On Ike CVN69 you knew which of the galley's had better/fresher/not so long under the lights and you also knew which meals you had to be early to. We often had Crab legs, Steaks, cordon bleu, etc... The current situation is possibly which facility you are experiencing. I understand that part are in King Hall part are in Dahlgren and they are still operating out of the temp kitchen. I can make some leeway there. I still have issue with the budget per student. It is my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong but the cost per day per mid is lower than what they have costed out per day per sailor on the carriers. My info (for the fleet is from a senior chief culinary specialist onboard one of our carriers. )(same volume, less deliveries). My question to our esteemed panelists is
1. is the published(on CC) per diem rate per mid accurate?($6.60)
2. what is the contractual time period and is it modifiable by triggers?
3. who oversee's the quality control?</p>
<p>Looks like the enlisted folks eat better than the mids. :) </p>
<p>excerpts from the Trident.
Blue Jacket Cafe. USNA photo by MCSN Matthew A. Ebarb.<br>
Naval Support Activity Annapolis galley, the Blue Jacket Café, underwent inspection for the annual Capt. Edward F. Ney Memorial Award program on Aug. 27.........For the second year in a row, Blue Jacket Café received a 5-star certification................
To qualify for a Ney inspection, a galley must be recognized as the best in their region. If chosen, a galley competes in or out of the continental United States, or against all Navy ships depending on location............</p>
<p>''Our number one priority is to provide our customers with 5-star quality service,'' said Sprankle. ''When we receive that accreditation, we know were doing our jobs. What we really want to do is bring home the title of Best Dining Facility in the Navy to Naval Support Activity Annapolis.''</p>
<p>END EXCERPTS</p>
<p>I like that the enlisted get a great facility. It is a shame that we have issues on the other side of the river. I know more than most that you are not going to have happy customers every day and every meal. Things happen. It is just that the sheer volume of issues raised on more than one occasion tells me that the "fish is less than fresh" </p>
<p>Someone needs to step up and fix this yesterday.</p>
<p>eggs and legs= scrambled eggs and chicken legs. This was also served on the mornoing of the Navy Army football game. We would usually pack a sack lunch for the bus trip to Philly (the busses left at 0 dark 30).</p>
<p>The food quality issue is unrelated to the mess hall remodel. During plebe summer of 2005 some of the plebes said the MREs were better than what they were served in King Hall. I attended special parent meals in King Hall in 2005 and 2006, but could only stomach the salad. I don't consider myself a picky eater. Deplorable situation.</p>
<p>I went to NASS this past summer. We ate in Dahlgren Hall but the food was good for the most part. I couldnt well I guess I wouldnt eat the eggs, pancakes or sausage for breakfast. I stuck to the cereal, yogurt and fruit. Otherwise the other meals were pretty good. The MREs were pretty disgusting especially during Mock Sea Trials then we had to go to the pool right after...not a pretty sight for most. All in all the food was good to me. Meals were a fun experience to say the least! I'm sure though that cooking for 700 or so is a lot easier than cooking for 4300 mids. I've been reading and a lot of the reasoning i.e. we are at war=bull so what we are at war we've been at war for 6 years now last I checked Annapolis, MD was located on the Continental U.S. ummm not too far from Washington D.C. actually so why should its food be the same as a carrier out at see for months on end... wait til you get out into the fleet? well guess what they are preparing for the fleet they arent quite there....</p>
<p>I also attended NASS, and during meals, the policy was "don't ask, just eat". We definitely had several meals that weren't completely recognizable, but when you're hungry enough, you can eat almost ANYTHING! I actually didn't mind the MREs during sea trials!</p>
<p>dd's food comments after NASS #2 this summer:</p>
<p>(re: Dahlgren Hall food) You don't look at it, or ask what it is. You just eat it.</p>
<p>(re: MREs) Better than the mess hall stuff</p>
<p>Note: They could serve garbage and she would still go if selected......</p>
<p>yeah i went to nass as well and i don't think the food was good, except it was edible. there were a few instances where i couldn't tell the difference between chicken or fish - except then again, i'm not gonna let the food deter my desires of wanting to attend the Academy</p>
<p>My kids are telling me that they're getting used to how bad it is. Kinda sad.</p>
<p>I think Whistle Pig said it best. Bad news: it competes with Kitty Litter (or words to that effect). Good news: there's always seconds. :(</p>
<p>Turkey bacon for breakfast that looks and tastes like baloney. The Plebe actually laughed about it and said, "It's not as if anyone thinks they're eating real bacon..."</p>
<p>I guess what isn’t clear to me since I don’t have any basis for a historical perspective on the food situation there is this; has the food be consistently bad for some period of time and we’re only hearing about now it because everyone is forced to eat it three meals a day for most of the week? Or has something just changed that has impacted the quality of the food? I thought I read somewhere they can only spend about $6.00 per day per Mid? If that is correct it would certainly put a damper on the kind and quality of food served, and could conceivably impact the quantity as well. </p>
<p>If you want to keep the math simple; six dollars a day times about 4000 Mids assuming you feed them ~250 days a year works out to $6,000,000.00. I think it’s great that we have enough money to build spectacular field houses and can almost always find another $500 million to cover a cost overrun on a weapon system. Somehow I think we could find another million or two to improve the food service, if that’s what it will take to bring the quality up to where it should be. And if they can’t find the money, they could always ask the Mids to kick in….given how much they are saving by not eating all those meals someplace else….</p>
<p>Part of the problem--and I admit this is speculation--probably arises from overall budget considerations; at least for this fiscal year.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, the federal budget runs from 10/1 to 9/30.
The budget for this year was considered based on about 8 meals per week per upper class mid and probably double that for plebes. Say about 40,000 meals per week.</p>
<p>New administration comes in and mandates about 15 meals a week x 4000. Say about 60,000 meals per week.</p>
<p>All of a sudden the mythical $6.60 per mid x 40,000 = $264,000 per week must be spread over 60,000 = $4.40.</p>
<p>Given the administration's lack of planning regarding this whole matter, this seems to be a plausible explanation. Since we won't get any other reasonable explanation--remember this never happened or was the fault of the mids--then maybe [big maybe] things will get better in October.</p>
<p>I wounder what the consequences would have been--since the administration likes to equate Bancroft to a ship--if they had come in mid-stream and ordered 24 hour sailing without budgeting for fuel?</p>
<p>I went to NASS Session 1 this year. Food was tolerable, and some things were actually quite good. Especially breakfast. Though I think it got better as I got more tired.</p>
<p>I have a feeling this will all be sorted by June of 2008. Hopefully.</p>
<p>You won't even remember what you ate during Plebe Summer anyway...</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>^^^^^
The only meals I remember from Plebe Summer are noon meal and evening meal on I-day. </p>
<p>For noon meal we were served cold cut sandwiches. My squad leader told us that we had better enjoy lunch because it would be the last meal we would be able to enjoy for a loooooong time. :D</p>
<p>For evening meal, we were served Surf 'n Turf and banana splits for desert. Notice that I said "served" not "ate." I would venture to say that 90 percent of that evening meal ended up in the trash.</p>
<p>Overall, the food served at the academy was good. Morning meals sucked except for Sundays when they served steak and eggs. As a general rule, I skipped morning meals (they weren't mandatory back during the '70s).</p>
<p>We must have had the same squad leader... :)</p>
<p>Same meal, same words. Ahh, the memories...</p>
<p>I lost 15 pounds during Plebe Summer, but put it all back on by graduation.</p>
<p>Same story on mando meals in the 80-84 time period. Breakfast was not manadatory, but since we were up anyway, we usually went when we were Plebes.</p>
<p>I went to NASS Session 3 (A-2-1 owned!!!), and I thought the food was decent. I mean, it wasn't inedible or anything. It wasn't very healthy--lots of white bread and fat and not much vegetables, which was disappointing because you'd think they'd want to keep those athletes in top shape. The best meal was the buffalo chicken--whatever was in the mystery sauce was good :) The one thing was that there wasn't always as much as we wanted, especially since they made a couple people from other squads sit with each squad at the table. I think the comparisons between MREs and the King Hall food are funny. I don't think the MREs and the mess hall food were close in quality because the mess hall food was absolutely disgusting, but because the MREs were actually pretty good, even cold.</p>
<p>ohhhh, silly navy kids, don't we have better things to ***** about than the food? MREs are legit; try going 62 days with eating 2 MREs a day and you'll find them to be the most delicious thing on the face of the planet. You can come up with some seriously good meals if you drug deal those bad boys, and, when yout get done, all you can think of is food in terms of vegetable crackers, peanut butter, M&Ms, and cheese spread with jalepenos. It's all about perception; think the glass is empty, it will be, think it's full, and there you go. Just think, things could always be worse: I'm sure during a 456 day tour of Sadr City, mystery meat would sound pretty good...
just my thoughts.</p>
<p>RLTW</p>