Diversity at Yale

<p>Diversity might be the wrong word, but it kinda makes sense.</p>

<p>How diverse (i.e. how many people of color) are there on campus? Are there a lot of groups catered to people of color at Yale? Are they active on campus or are they mostly self-contained? Can any Yale student of color tell me about their experience at Yale?</p>

<p>I don't know the exact and current nos. but it used to be about 25% students who self identified as of color. Approx 13% Asian, 8-9% African American, 2-3% Latino, ~1% Nat American.</p>

<p>There are many cultural avenues, including black frats & sororities. Due to the intimate nature of the student body, there's lots of integration as well as close community in the groups themselves.</p>

<p>Coming from an urban school district, I felt completely welcome. I felt there was substantial and visible support from the college. Their recruitment efforts say a lot too. My girlfriend at the time was at Stanford and the black population was considerably less (dunno what it is now).</p>

<p>I've ret'd to my hometown and now actively recruit african american students at the top high schools to consider Y as an extremely viable option.</p>

<p>I'm too lazy to check the statistics online, but I think it's more like 35% students of color these days.</p>

<p>The AfAm society is really cool and active, and for sure Yale is diverse. Just as with any "elite" school, though, white middle/upper-class kids are the majority.</p>

<p>I'm not black, latino or asian, so obviously it's impossible for me to know what the Yale experience is like to someone from that community. To Yale's credit, it's extremely welcoming to ALL students, but...</p>

<p>To its discredit, it just isn't there yet in terms of diversity - getting more of us international students is nice, but at the same time, I used to attend an extremely diverse community college and now know exactly what a student body COULD look like, the experience we are missing out on. </p>

<p>Also, I'd like to see more professors (esp. tenured) and fellows that aren't your typical white, older male, and I'd like to see our (all-black) dining hall and cleaning staff have a much more prominent and appreciated role in our Yale community (how can you treat someone as just an employee, when they've been here 4x the time a student has, and are a part of our every single day?).</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Yale, but there is definitely a need for us to take the lead on these issues in practice and not just theory.</p>

<p>frrrph: I can understand your observation of the Yale employees who seem to be mostly people of color. However, it's a function of the labor market in CT. The labor relations btn Y and the unions has been very fractuous -- and I hope there's not going to be another round of craziness next time negotiations come due. However, I'm at a lost as to how to more "include" an employee (regardless of ethinicity) more than to make him/her feel welcome and provide good working conditions. </p>

<p>I'm not trying to be unsympathetic at all. I fully realize the divide btn the students and faculty vs. the employees and how often that falls along ethnic lines.</p>

<p>Here's a suggestion: In your residential college, take up a collection from EVERYONE (and get the Master to kick in extra funds) and make sure that at Christmas time each employee assigned to your college gets something above and beyond. Maybe something again in May. That would be a nice and appreciated gesture</p>

<p>Are there any instances of discrimination or racism in the student body?</p>

<p>Read a pretty ghastly story a few a few years back about the law school. A one-off incident I'm sure but I'm still curious.</p>

<p>undisclosed: the fact is individual situations will occur in many areas of society be it a univeristy or a workplace. There was some graffitti near one of the colleges this past year which was roundly condemned.</p>

<p>That being said, piecemeal instances of racism or just plain boorishness and stupidity do not reflect upon the school as a whole. That's my opinion</p>

<p>I never said they would. Isolated incidents don't dictate the norm but in some cases they are just the more outspoken expression of underlying general feelings. Even though I doubt Yale is like that, I was just inquiring.</p>

<p>Do you know what the graffiti said?</p>

<p>my class is 40% students of color</p>

<p>the graffiti may or may not have been drawn by a yale student. We actually don't know...Most of my minority friends here have told me that Yale is amazingly accepting. It's VERY integrated...there are no real "color" lines that you see in dining halls or parties..</p>

<p>The</a> Yale Herald - April 11, 2003 - Hate speech shocks Yale campus</p>

<p>That story scared the **** out of me. While I'm sure the school is very open and integrated there seems to be a lot of undergoing anger and racially-motivated hatred.</p>

<p>undisclosed: your reaction and conclusion is exactly why I replied the way i did so earlier. </p>

<p>"there seems to be a lot of undergoing anger and racially-motivated hatred."</p>

<p>Compared to what? Please don't be a firebrand or make generalizations like that. I recall that you're planning to transfer. This story is 4 yrs old. I'm sure if you dig, there are a few more as well. Ask students of color how they perceive it there NOW. The fact is there's no place in the country that's free of racism or the threat of it. I would send my kids there in a heartbeat.</p>

<p>Yale is not a place with "a lot of undergoing anger and racially-motivated hatred."</p>

<p>Woah, step back here.</p>

<p>I never said in any of my posts that I wouldn't go there or that it wasn't a great institution (I think that's an understatement for everyone on this particular board).</p>

<p>And for the record using the word "seems" in a sentence like "there seems to be a lot of undergoing anger and racially-motivated hatred." pretty much implies that it's just an individual perception (open to correction) and not a sweeping generalization. If I had said that Yale was a breeding ground of hatred and racial anger then maybe I could understand you popping a vein but I didn't, now did I?</p>

<p>You're acting like even inquiring about this side of the school environment is the height of silliness when it's not. Nor is it a writeoff of Yale as a "racist institution". I never made that claim so don't accuse me of it.</p>

<p>While racism is something that exists in many facets of society, it doesn't mean that one can't be unsettled by things like a "n___ school" graffiti (albeit of questionable source), letters to black grad students blaming them of local rapes, a student being accosted at her dorm room with people with 2x4s and locking herself in out of fear for her life, and notes saying "I hope you protesters and your children are killed in the next terrorist attack. Signed, **** you" posted to doors. </p>

<p>Are these somewhat isolated cases that do not reflect the overall student body? I believe so. Can they show an underlying trend in some of the students there? I believe so too. I'm at a college right now, and I can tell you that NO, universal racism or no, this does not happen everywhere.</p>

<p>SURELY you can understand that the image gathered by these articles can lead an outsider to formulate the opinion that there may be a lot of undergoing anger and racial hatred at the school (without being a firebrand :rolleyes:). And surely you also understand that this is note stated as a contradiction to, or meant to take anything away from, the wonderful, highly-praised communal setting that Yale is said to be. Surely. So please, ** calm down **.</p>

<p>P.S. Somewhat irrelevant to the overall argument here but 4 years is not the generational gap you made it out to be. Its the length of a graduating class; That's it. Hardly the "then and NOW" you make it sound to be.</p>

<p>you should check the numbers, but from memory i think there are less students of color @ yale than its peer schools.</p>

<p>also, from talking to recent alums, many seemed to have some "old fashioned new england prep white surpremacy" feel.</p>

<p>Do you mind me asking how so?</p>