diversity/ life at dartmouth

<p>what is student life like at dartmouth? i know dartmouth has had a rep for being really conservative and such, but is it still like that now? people nowadays when talking about college kind of say conservative as if it's a bad thing (which seems like an inaccurate, biased perspective), but really how would that play a role on campus at dartouth, if at all? also, how is interaction between different people at dartmouth? do people self segregate depending on interests, race, sports, or is it all pretty open?</p>

<p>thanks in advance for answering my questions (i know they're kinda a lot, lol). :)</p>

<p>We have same question. My daughter and I visited today and liked it a lot but noted 37% of students are in Frats and they have a very strong conservative student newspaper - the Dartmouth Review. The students we met seemed very nice, unpretentious, bright and interesting. I think there is probably a good mix there which means more fun debating people who disagree with you. Also they have about 30% minorities there and 6% foreign students.</p>

<p>Dartmouth, today, is NOT conservative. You would be in the minority here if you were to support Bush, or Republicans. I felt sorry for the Dartmouth Republicans at the activities fair because no one seemed to be interested in them, unlike the other groups such as the Greens.</p>

<p>At a parliamentary debate, where expressing support during a speech was allowed, there were two vocal Bush supporters in a room of at least forty who clearly loathed the man.</p>

<p>The Dartmouth Review is always taken with a grain of salt, though they do write some good articles.</p>

<p>Yeah the days of Dartmouth being conservative are long over. Its more "Bill Clinton" liberal than anything.</p>

<p>They have a lot of old-money conservatives.</p>

<p>here's a view of today's Dartmouth, albeit from a Yale guy...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/wfb200509271452.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/wfb200509271452.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>paladin dave, from ur personal insight, i assume that you attend dartmouth. can you tell me the aspects of dartmouth that you love and the ones you dont, if any?
thanks :)</p>

<p>The Dartmouth Review is perhaps the most famous college paper in the country. And it's a great paper. It's certainly conservative, and is basically disowned by the administration. No funding, no on-campus publishing, not allowed to be distributed to dorms, not allowed to participate in campus recruiting events for new participants (at least, that has been how it has been up to now.) You can't even find a link to the Review on the college website. It's a great irony that this much-hated thorn in the liberal administration's side is responsible--almost single-handedly--for giving Dartmouth the reputation for being "conservative."</p>

<p>Yes, Dartmouth really is very liberal, just not quite as hyper liberal as say Harvard or Yale. If you are liberal you will very much be at home here. But love or hate the Review, I think it really benefits the campus to have a wide variety of opinions. I'm a freshman here too, so I can answer your question aaliyah. Dislikes: athletes who don't care about their studies, only about getting drunk, and really don't deserve to be here (but this is obviously NOT unique to Dartmouth, so it really is a moot point), strong frat system (but it is more inclusive than the Greek system at other comparable schools, such as Penn and Duke. Everyone gets a blitz every weekend about parties going on at frats, almost all parties are open to everyone. Also a plus for girls not interested in joining the Greeks: there are only 6 sororities, so of the 37% of students in Greek system, males are more heavily represented.) Likes: the outdoors! I wasn't really into the outdoors, really at all, before I came, but my DOC trip was one of the best experiences of my life, and I am very excited to have so many opportunities to get outdoors. The size is perfect too: not as small as an LAC, where you will feel as if you know everyone, but not as big as most other Ivies, where you start to lose that 'personal attention' feeling. I called the First Year Office at the beginning of the summer, and then called about 3 weeks later to follow up about the matter. The woman in the office remembered me from our conversation weeks ago! Faculty are also amazing and so accessible! (I've already been able to eat lunch with the German dept. chair.) Amazing fellow students, and fewer pretentious students than at other comparable schools.<br>
Dartmouth isn't heaven, but no place is. Most of my dislikes about the school will, guaranteed, be found, in some form or another, at every other college in the country. So if the positives are enough to sway you, apply!</p>

<p>Yes, I attend Dartmouth. What I love about Dartmouth is how smart and talented the students are, how big my room is here in East Wheelock, how much of a support network there is, how easy-going everyone is, how I can cross the road in Hanover and cars will stop for me, how great the DOC trips were, the fact that I can buy a ticket to see Vanessa Carlton at the Hop this Tuesday,</p>

<p>What I don't like so much about Dartmouth is the apparent size of the gay community here, the fact that the two main themes at Convocation were Katrina and Jesus (thank you Noah Riner) and the fact that the frats don't serve wine (only beer). It would be nice to have a larger international community as well.</p>

<p>Driver, you say that the Dartmouth Review is not allowed to be distributed to dorms. That's funny because everyone in my dorm got a copy of the Freshman Issue.</p>

<p>Glad you got a copy! Even gladder that the policy has changed. Perhaps this letter from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education had something to do with it.

[quote]
We are equally alarmed to learn that Dartmouth College appears to be applying this policy selectively and unfairly against The Dartmouth Review, a conservative student publication that frequently criticizes the administration. On February 13, 2003, Dean Redman sent an email to Office of Residential Life staff. The email said: “The only distribution of papers that is forbidden at this point in time is the Review. All other publications are fine until we figure out a different distribution system. The other magazines, journals, papers are funded by COSO and are not to be discarded [Emphasis added; COSO refers to the Council on Student Organizations].”</p>

<p>That same day, Dean Redman sent another email to the editors of The Dartmouth Review, informing them that their publication was banned from campus dormitories. The email included the threat of potentially significant disciplinary consequences: “Please be advised any student found distributing the Review will be subject at a minimum to loss of door access to residence halls as per the door access policy.”

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<a href="http://www.dartreview.com/archives/2003/10/23/fire_slams_dartmouth.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartreview.com/archives/2003/10/23/fire_slams_dartmouth.php&lt;/a>
Anyway, my point was simply that it is truly amazing that this little newspaper whose office has been burglarized, vandalized, had entire production runs stolen, and had staffers threatened with arrest for participating in the campus activities fair--has become the public face of a very liberal college.</p>

<p>thanks for the perspectives, paladin and salia. salia, i am definately applying, i've recently made the decision to apply ED. so hopefully if all goes well i might see you there next fall.</p>

<p>Hope to see you here. Let me know if you have any other questions about the school.</p>

<p>my floor is incredibly diverse, and the people are awesome. It's hard to make generalizations about Dartmouth students but pretty much everyone I've met has been friendly and interesting. It sounds very cliche, but some of the most interesting conversations you'll have will be at 2 a.m. with your floormates. It's amazing.</p>

<p>Hey just have a question about that frat stuff for the Dartmouth students...I really love everything about Dartmouth except the high percentgae of people in frats. I'm not just heeding to the Animal House stereotype or whatever, but most other schools I'm looking at have about 10% or zero people in frats, so Dartmouth is considerably higher. I just can't stand beer guzzlers who talk about drinking beer all the time and I wonder if that is a very prevalent personality? I know you can't really generalize about a school, but you must have some idea...</p>

<p>The frat scene is really different than at other schools. Its much lower testosterone, rather its very inclusive and the whole student body is invited to every single party. They are pretty much excuses to have a good time and hang out. But you still will have your share of those psuedo sophisticated beer guzzlers you might not like, but they are at any school.</p>

<p>As I mentioned above, you will get a blitz every weekend about the parties going on. I went to a frat party last week, and I didn't drink. A lot of kids there didn't either. There is plenty of dancing, and they also served cider, which was tasty and looks like beer, so you can't even tell the difference between drinker and non (if you are worried about looking weird drinking a non-alcoholic beverage at a frat) Also, many people don't even spend 5 minutes inside a frat. What I realized is that the 'beer guzzling mentality' is not unique to Dartmouth, and also is not a result of the frats. You will find that same mentality, guaranteed, at the other schools you are looking at. The only difference is that the place those kids guzzle beer is different. But again, there are tons of kids here who don't drink, really the same number I'm sure as at any other school of this caliber. I know someone in East Wheelock, and she said there are only 2 guys on her floor who drink, and they are made fun of for it. You will not be alone if you decide not to drink.</p>