<p>Whoever said "go back to India" clearly is not a minority and doesn't know what it is like. Megathunder, I also think that that post was uncalled for and xenophobic. Cbomo, try putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Your whole life you have been a minority, and when applying to college, you have the chance to be around more people like yourself. It's a nice feeling to fit in and belong, and these people understand cultural things without you having to give them long explanations. When I read your "go back to India" statement, it reminded me of anti-Jewish remarks I have heard, such as "If you don't like Christmas, go to Israel," etc. Next time, think before you post.</p>
<p>Brown is extremely diverse. I've heard that it's one of the most friendly Ivies for students of color. But if you do not think Brown or other Ivy League colleges have enough Asian students, then I advise the UC's, as has already been mentioned. </p>
<p>Many people I know see the extremely high percentage of Asian students in the UC system as a turnoff. These people feel that this high percentage makes the campus homogeneous and segregated, rather than diverse. I guess it depends on what your view and opinion of diversity is.</p>
<p>At the vast majority of places in this country, the demographic of Asians is far, far under 28%. However, at Ivy League and other highly selective colleges, Asians are rather overrepresented in both the applicant pool and pool of admitted students. If there aren't enough Asian people to suit you at Brown, you're not going to be happy at very many places in the country.</p>
<p>But it's all a matter of personal preference. You must seek your own happiness, and go where you feel you will learn best.</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>The student body of UC Irvine is 50% Asian (and I think that's including both India and the Far East). I don't know if there's any school less white (aside from some historically black colleges) in the country. Most of the UCs are fairly evenly split between Asians and Caucasians. Brown is 72% white.</p>
<p>Going by racial makeup alone, you can't possibly say that UC's racial composition is a turnoff and Brown's isn'tunless, of course, you're white. I'm white, and I grew up in a fairly segregated area (Boston). I'm used to most of the people I see walking around being white. When I go somewhere where there are more Asians, blacks, or hispanics than whites, I notice.</p>
<p>Personally, I wanted to go somewhere more diverse than where I was. But I still ended up at a school that was mostly white. For someone like megathunder, who I'm guessing has been in the minority his whole life, I can absolutely understand why they'd want to go to a school with as large a percentage of people of their race as they could. Seeing very few people like yourself is actually kind of tough. You end up feeling isolated.</p>
<p>By the way, remember that 28% is all students of color. Presumably, that includes blacks, Hispanics, and Far East Asians as well as Indians. Thus, the percentage of Indians is presumably much lower. Imagine (all the white people reading this) going to a school that was 72% Asian, and of the 28% other people, some of them were black, some were Hispanic, and only 5-10% were white. Wouldn't you imagine that you'd feel a bit isolated?</p>
<p>Once again, though, my impression is that Brown is a very tolerant place. If you're looking for a school that simply has more Asians/Indians, which is entirely reasonable, then go to UC. But if you're looking for a school where you can be part of a strong Indian community and at the same time interact with people of lots of different resources, then Brown is still a good choice.</p>
<p>I guess I'm a bit different.. I'm a minority, and my preferences are that I want to go to a college with less minorities. My city is about 60% asian, and my school happens to be about 80% asian. So yeah, I want to experience something different and go to a place with more caucasians. Actually, any college campus would be better than my school, diversity-wise. :)</p>
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Going by racial makeup alone, you can't possibly say that UC's racial composition is a turnoff and Brown's isn'tunless, of course, you're white. I'm white, and I grew up in a fairly segregated area (Boston). I'm used to most of the people I see walking around being white. When I go somewhere where there are more Asians, blacks, or hispanics than whites, I notice.
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<p>The people I know that consider this factor a turnoff for the UC's are white. But I also have to note that the UC racial composition is not anywhere close to that of the rest of the country, which is why some other people might be turned off as well. It's just quite a variation from the norm.</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>Wow, I sure can't wait to go to school with megathunder.</p>
<p>"it reminded me of anti-Jewish remarks I have heard, such as "If you don't like Christmas, go to Israel,""</p>
<p>Er, Jewish nationality =/= Jewish religion.</p>
<p>Megathunder, I can understand where you're coming from. From 5th grade to 8th grade, I went to a private, Catholic (pre-dominantly white) school in California. It just so happened to be that I was the only Indian student out of the student body (350 students). I was uncomfortable at first, of course, but I gradually got adjusted to it, as I befriended many white students as well as a small number of minority students (Hispanic, Black, Asian). The point is that, I shared your concerns and still do, when it comes to having a diverse community, but even when I was put in an environment where I was the only Indian and part of a school were only 5% was not white, things weren't as bad. Brown having 28% minority population may not be as bad as it seems on paper. But again, it's your choice and you should go where you feel accepted and welcomed by others.</p>
<p>By the way, icymoon, are you from Northern California? I ask this because my city is 60% Asian as well.</p>
<p>I'm from Southern California. =)</p>
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Whoever said "go back to India" clearly is not a minority and doesn't know what it is like. Megathunder, I also think that that post was uncalled for and xenophobic. Cbomo, try putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Your whole life you have been a minority, and when applying to college, you have the chance to be around more people like yourself. It's a nice feeling to fit in and belong, and these people understand cultural things without you having to give them long explanations. When I read your "go back to India" statement, it reminded me of anti-Jewish remarks I have heard, such as "If you don't like Christmas, go to Israel," etc. Next time, think before you post.
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Shut the **** up. You have no idea what you're talking about.</p>
<p>What are you trying to prove? Instead of attacking other people and defending yourself, you could simply say "here's what I meant", "here's what you interpreted", and "I apologize for the confusion"...problem solved.</p>
<p>Because she should have already gotten what I meant. To explain myself would be a waste of my time, so insults are a necessity.</p>
<p>And I don't apologize for the confusion. These people just have sticks up their asses and don't understand any sort of lightheartedness or sarcasm.</p>
<p>I'm Polish. Tell me my land of my heritage makes submarines with screen doors. I don't give a damn, because I'm not a stingy douche about that ****.</p>
<p>So if I'm xenophobic because I'm not a minority, well, you guys are homophobic because you're not gay (I'm not actually gay).</p>
<p>Cbomo, you don't understand where Megathunder is coming from. Immigrants, especially from Asia, have been greatly discriminated in this country, whether it be on Abercrombie clothing or in the media. When my father came to this country, he asked someone at the airport where the restroom was, and the individual responded by questioning, "Excuse me..Do you speak English?" - and I know for a fact that my dad's English is very understandable now and back then. The individual went on to say, "Go back to India or wherever the hell you came from."</p>
<p>Experiences like this make immigrants more weary of the white population here in America, and drive our need to find a community where we are accepted. Obviously, you don't have to tell Megathunder to go to India to find Indians because the 99% of the country is Indian and not white. Don't try to excuse yourself from your hurtful statement - you just don't have the guts to admit you're wrong. Your last post shows how ignorant you are to others' feelings by saying that explaining yourself is a "waste of [your] time." Maybe you're a person who doesn't have feelings, but don't demonstrate this character flaw within yourself to the CC community.</p>
<p>Oakley, that was awesome. :)</p>
<p>Wow, I'm speechless. This thread really has shown me there are some really good-hearted people out there. I want to sincerely thank all of those who responded to my initial question good-naturedly, with suburbian, sarah, and oakley in particular. Thanks for understanding where I'm coming from and trying to tell the others that don't.</p>
<p>I haven't responded to this thread in a while because I didn't like the direction it was heading and didn't want to incite any more negative feelings. But I'm humbled that some really good people came out to sincerely tell me how it is and show that they know where I'm coming from.</p>
<p>Thanks again, it's good to know there are some truly humane people out there...</p>
<p><em>vomits</em></p>
<p>I'm not sure whether you're a good person or not, cbomo, but you're clearly in the right here. Megathunder, two things. First, negative feelings often lead to positive outcomes. I'd hope a future Ivy Leaguer would realize that. Secondly, kindly store the patronizing crap for people whom you actually hold moral superiority over...people like those in oakley's anecdote. From what I've heard (from this and other conversations), cbomo is hardly Bob Ewell.</p>
<p>Hell, people whose parents were from India are substantially more wealthy than those of other ethnic groups. Sorry, but between this and your drop-of-the-hat name calling, your grounds as down-trodden minority are starting to look a little shaky.</p>
<p>Cripes. Do what good, self-sustaining Type A'ers do and grow some balls.</p>
<p>...Unless you're a girl. Then, just...I don't know...buck up.</p>
<p>If the majority of the student body is as abhorrently pc as you weiners, then I honestly regret getting into Brown.</p>
<p>You ****heads throw the word "ignorant" around like candy canes.</p>
<p>Really, everyone needs to just calm down. Offensive remarks are only offensive if someone take offense, and given what cbomo's been saying, i'd say some people need to just be a little less sensitive. Get a sense of humor. When my cell phone breaks and my friends tell me to get my relatives to make me a new one, I laugh because it's funny. Getting angry would accomplish nothing. The only time you need to take offense at statements like that is if the intention of the speaker really is to hurt your feelings and degrade you.</p>
<p>megathunder, i think a lot of people are attracted to brown because it's very diverse. (no, its as diverse as the uc's, but, as far as other schools go, its diverse.) therefore, not only will you probably find a vibrant indian community, you will also meet many non-indian students who are very interested in learning about indian culture</p>
<p>I find the "go back to India" remark offensive, and I take offense! I'm not trying to be politically correct, I'm trying to defend myself from intolerant statements! You don't think it's a big deal because it wasn't degrading you. And when the **** have negative feelings lead to positive outcomes!! That's bs. And cbomo, I hope you don't go to Brown. You sound like an *******.</p>
<p>!! !!! !!!! !!!!!</p>