Do all 30 units have to be taken at a CCC for TAG?

Hello. Currently, I am an undergraduate student that’s transferred from a CSU to a CCC and am planning to transfer to a UC by Fall of 2018. I have some questions about TAG. The requirement for it is that you must complete 30 transferable units by the end of summer 2017 for Fall 2018 admission. Since CSU’s and UC’s don’t have agreements on assist.org, will the units from my CSU count towards the TAG requirement of 30 units? Or do all 30 units have to be taken at a community college for TAG? These are my units so far:

--------CSU Fall of 2016 (14 units total)
Calculus 1 (5 units)
English 1010 (3 units)
Chicano Studies (3 units)
Co Sci 1010 (3 units)

--------CCC Winter of 2017 (6 units) All transferrable

--------CCC Spring of 2017 (14 units) All transferrable

---------Planned- CCC Summer of 2017 (6 units) All transferrable

I checked on assist.org and only Calculus 1(5 units) and English 1010 (3 units) from my CSU had equivalents at my community college so I’m thinking that only those 8 units will carry over for TAG if that’s how it works.

Units that I will have taken by Fall of 2017 for TAG filing:
Total units taken - 40 units
Assist-Certified units - 26 units
Assist-Certified units including Calculus 1 and English 1010 - 34 units

Thank you!

No, only CC units count toward TAG.

^^^ Any transferable units count towards TAG, they do not need to be taken at a CCC. See http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/files/tag-matrix.pdf Only Davis required enrollment at a CCC from Spring 2016 for Fall 2017 admission. So even Davis would accept units for TAG taken elsewhere as long as they were taken prior to Spring 2016. The rest just ask for 30 transferable units from anywhere, including AP credit. The real issue the OP faces is whether she/he has 30 units and is eligible to apply for TAG.

This is what we learned from HS and CC matriculation process:

From the matrix:

Who can file a TAG?
Only students transferring directly from a California community college (CCC) are considered for a TAG, including international students (those with a visa). A CCC transfer student is one who has completed at least 30 semester (45 quarter) UC-transferable units at one or more California community colleges…

According to OP’s plan, OP will not have 30 UC transferable units taken at CCC that will be done by Summer 2017, so OP is not a CCC transfer student yet. OP will not be eligible to file a TAG in September. If OP files, TAG would not be approved.

@mikemac, as usual, is right. 30 from anywhere. You’re good to go.

@Happy2Help - nope. You misread the rules:

“A CCC transfer student is one who has completed at least 30 semester (45 quarter) UC-transferable units at one or more California community college.”

^^^ That’s simply the definition of a CCC student. They have until final spring term to get the 30.

Sorry, not my experience that I have seen at my local CC/CSUF. TAG gets denied due to this very reason.

You’re giving wrong information. It’s not helping students.

@Happy2Help See page 3 of TAG matrix.
http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/files/tag-matrix.pdf

@Hmwas212 this matrix should calm your fears.

Alright. Hopefully, my CSU courses are transferrable and count towards the 30 unit requirement. Thank you for the information.

Hi Ohm888, yes I see page 3. Just giving OP my experience. Page 3 is based on the assumption that the student is a “CCC transfer student” from page 1.

UC doesn’t see OP as a CCC transfer student meeting the criteria until after completing 30 units at CCC. OP can try applying for TAG in September with all units but my past experience of another CSU+CCC student showed denial of TAG since student didn’t have 30 CCC units by the end of the summer before applying for TAG the following September.

I’m fairly certain Hmwas212’s CSU courses will be transferable.

@Hmwas212 can you take 4 more CCC units this summer?

The unit limit for summer session is unfortunately 9 units so I could only take another 3 units. Which would put me 1 unit short if TAG accepts only CCC units

You can attend another CCC concurrently if you like, or take an online class somewhere else.

@Happy2Help it’s unfortunate you keep promoting wrong info to the public. Please email a UC and ask. You are garbling the rules.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO COMPLETE ALL 30 AT A CCC PRIOR TO TAG.

To receive CCC priority admission and to keep the TAG in effect, you must complete 30 units from a CCC by final term and your last term must be at a CCC.

https://transfer.santarosa.edu/sites/transfer.santarosa.edu/files/UCSBTAG%20Tips%20F17.pdf

Here is the info out of the link @Ohm888 gave

This was for Fall 2017 admission, for Fall 2018 just slip the date by a year.

Like the other UCs, you just need 30 units from anywhere to file a TAG. If they meant the first 30 must also be completed at a CCC they would have said so, just like they do when talking about the last 30 units. Only Davis has a tighter restriction, requiring spring attendance at a CCC as well as the following year.

@hmwas212 as long as you have 30 units by summer, including CSU, you’re fine. Please email a UC because the info you are being given is wrong. Trust me.

Like I said, @Ohm888, my experience was that a student in a very similar situation, ***had her TAG denied ** *in November with the reason of not having 30 CCC UC transferable units when she applied in September. She had some units at CSUF and totaled over 30 transferable units with a healthy >3.5 GPA, nothing lower than a B. Very similar to OP.

I don’t know what else to say. This was my experience.

@Hmwas212 please let us know what happens, whether you email a UC, or your CCC advisor tells you otherwise. I’d be interested in what you learn!

Ok, I’ll email UC Irvine and check to make sure. Thanks for the input.

^^^ are you an admissions consultant?

@Ohm888

No, just a parent sharing my experiences.

Hey, I think it’s great that as a current Cal student, you stay around to help others! I don’t see as many parents on this forum as I used to, and much less current and graduated students.