<p>Hi! I was just wondering if any of yall could answer my question about...if you plan on transferring to a high caliber school...do they factor or take into consideration where you transfer from ( institution previously attended?) do they look at it differently if you are going to transfer from a Community College (CC) a lower tier state school, a not so known school or a prestigious school?</p>
<p>Or do they weigh more heavily your grades, gpa, essays and other things?</p>
<p>I'd really appreciate if someone would answer my question..thanks! :)</p>
<p>There are many students who transferred to top tier universities from CC. You just need to worry about getting a high GPA as opposed to what college you are coming from.</p>
<p>Well, I suppose technically,they’re not supposed to. Academically speaking CC and universities,with the exception of the ivies, were designed to work together. CC’s are great for getting gen-eds out the way because they’re basically the same no matter what school you’ve gone to to take them. However, I imagine then if you were transferring from Yale to another school they’d be more impressed by your Yale A verses a St. Cloud State University A. So, unfortunately yes. I do believe admission advisors look at those sorts of things. Although, since most of us aren’t transferring out of Yale and can’t even get into Yale I’m not sure it matters much.</p>
<p>I have noticed though, in cases where you take Biology at CC’s and then try to transfer the credits they’re not usually accepted. I was told it was because the labs didn’t match up. Silly reason as far as I’m concerned but,that’s a good example of when this might take place. My best advice is to just take classes you know are pretty standard for ALL schools and then this won’t happen :)</p>
<p>Wrong. The Ivies are a sports league, nothing more. Also, colleges were not “designed to work together”, public schools answer to their state and other schools are private entities. The only schools in a system are those within a state (eg. CCC/CSU/UC) or in a consortium.</p>
<p>OP, your question has been asked many, many times before, please use the Search function.</p>
<p>I was asking this b/c i want to eventually transfer into my dream schools like, Emory, UPenn ( maybe wharton) and WUSTL… as for now i might end up going to school at MSU-Mankato or St.Cloud ( i might also do a bridge program at a CC and their university)…if i dont get into/or get enough money to attend adelphi u, seton hall & pace etc… This year i really have been making signicant upward trend and i will definitely finish my senior year strong with lots of As and some Bs.</p>
<p>In college i plan on focusing myself again --getting a high GPA and getting involved on campus in stuff i actually like–like religious and cultural clubs (muslim student association, afriican student assoc.) etc. business clubs etc…and maybe even applying for a couple of internships here and there. I REALLY want to prove myself.</p>
<p>btw, I’d like to major in economics or econ. w/ finance oh yeah, i’m also a URM if that helps at all…</p>
<p>edit: @entomom: i have used the search function…i didnt find many that answered my q exactly.</p>
<p>@entomom I didn’t actually mean they’re all on the same plan, working together, doing the exact same thing, for the same goal. I meant they work together as a short hand way of saying that academically speaking most classes should all be on the same level. I understand that they weren’t “designed”. Prestige is prestige but, gen-ed English is gen-ed English.</p>
<p>Some schools favor transfers from 4-year institutions over CCs. For example, only 10% of Northwestern’s transfers come from CCs, the other 90% from universities. It’s also worth noting that schools such as Cornell, UCB, and Virginia favor CC transfers from CCs that have agreements with them.</p>
<p>Elynn:
I am not sure why you think of that because I am in community college right now and have been getting many offers from great colleges like lehigh, tulane, Case Western, Cornell, etc.</p>
<p>You said you have heard that if you take a biology class at a CC, it normally won’t transfer. This truly depends on the college you are going to. Most 4 year universities will accept lower level classes, NOT just general education classes from community colleges. If 4-year universities don’t accept general biology, chemistry, or other lower level classes then CC’s will go bankrupt in no time. Since many people have gotten accepted to medical schools where they did most of their prerequisites at a community college, why won’t a 4 year university do the same?</p>
<p>To be honest, I would rather have a 3.9 from a low ranked university than a sub 3.0 from a prestigious one.</p>
<p>@Bottlecap
I’m only going from my own experience. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. It’s just been my experience. I transfered 50 credits from a CC and only 20 of them were accepted. It could have just been a series of bad luck, however it happened to all 5 schools I applied to. Just what I could gather.</p>
<p>What school did you transfer to? were they all out of state?
It is still hard to believe that that only 20 out of 50 only transferred. Were all your classes college-level ? Did you fail any classes that make them not take your credits?</p>
<p>No, I didn’t fail anything and 2 of the schools were out of state yes. I know that schools generally accept credits for classes you’ve gotten a C or better in. I maybe had 2 D’s but that covers only about 6 credits. </p>
<p>I haven’t enrolled in any of my choices, I applied for the fall of this year so, I can’t tell you exactly what school I’m transferring to. All of my credits were college level, developmental courses didn’t even show up on my transcripts and that was just a 3 credit math class that I didn’t figure into my credit total anyway. When I talked to my counselor about it and called a few of the schools they said it was because certain classes can’t be taken based on how the university decides. Meaning, I took a few classes that I got A’s in that didn’t equal the level of instruction they asked of their students for the same class. I use the number 20 as a rough estimate. Some schools evaluated that they’d take around 35 others went as low as 15. My statement was never to suggest that community college was the “weaker” option, merely that future community college students should be sure to use potential transfer schools transfer guides. When I chose my classes I was fairly confident I was choosing pretty standard courses. I’ll be the first to admit I have credits that won’t go anywhere included in that 50 but, most of them are pretty basic. My math and science classes were where I got the most issues. I’ve take 3 math classes and 3 science classes, all of which weren’t considered for transfer because of “lab requirements” or some such business. </p>
<p>So, without all the fluff, I applied with roughly 40 good credits and only 20 or so were accepted as “equal” to what my potential university would offer.</p>
<p>Community Colleges are a great way to take those silly required classes at less of a cost however, it looks like I’ll be forced to retake a few, whatever the reason may be. As I said before, I didn’t mean to make it sound awful, merely an experience that I’ve been dealing with.</p>
<p>Well if for example the biology class you took at your community college didn’t have a lab component then of course it is not going to transfer to a university that requires a lab component in its biology class. I am trying to say that if the classes you take at the community college is generally equal(same amount of credits) to those offered at the 4 universities then there should be no problem.
I don’t know what you mean by choosing standard courses, I believe most if not all CC courses are lower level courses.</p>
<p>You said the math classes and science classes gave you the most issues, do you mind telling me what they are?
I believe that calculus 1, 2, and even 3 should be transferable. Anything below that may NOT be.
Same with general chemistry 1 and 2 along with organic chemistry 1 and 2 and biology 1 and 2. These classes are all lower level classes. </p>
<p>I am not trying to be disrespectful. I just want to see how this is possible since I will be transferring in the spring from a CC as well. I will have over 65 credits and I know only a maximum of 60 will transfer.</p>
<p>I really think it just depends on the school you’re transferring to and where you’re transferring from. I never took any developmental science classes and only one developmental math class, which doesn’t receive credit here so it’s not included in my 50 combined credits in the first place. All of my science classes had a lab included, they simply just weren’t considered “equal” to that of the schools I applied to. The credits are coming from a Illinois CC and I’ll use Michigan State University as an example. They will not take my biology or geology courses because they do not meet the standards they’d expect from their students. They both had a lab, they just weren’t accepted. I applied with a General Education Statistics class, College Algebra, and and something I can’t remember right now and none of them were taken. </p>
<p>When I say standard courses I mean classes like Gen-Ed’s. My CC has 200 and 300 level courses because some programs are offered with a bachelors degree but, not all. It’s entirely possible for me to go to a credit evaluator and see if I can argue them in, however as of right now, with the sheet I was mailed, the majority of my credits were refused. I am likely an extreme case.The school I’m coming from has the problem with a lot of students trying to transfer out. I’ve heard millions of reasons having to do with accredited institution issues to “you took easy classes” but, it is the way it is. </p>
<p>Your college may not be like that. In fact, you might be able to transfer every single one of your credits over. If anything, this is just an extreme personal case based upon the schools that’s available in my area.</p>
<p>I completely agree with you. I think it all goes back to what school you are transferring to. When you are transferring out of state, the school you are transferring have a good excuse to not accept credits from a school they are NOT familiar with. However, I think that most of instate universities should accept them. For example in NJ, there is something called “lampitt bill”. The bill states that students who went to a CC in NJ and received an AA or AS , all of the general education courses will transfer to the unversity they are transferring to. Again you are right that it depends on the school you are transferring to and where you are coming from.</p>
<p>I see that you received a credit evaluation and most of them did NOT transfer. Did you try to argue by bringing a syllabus ?
Did this only happen with MSU? did you apply anywhere else? instate out of state? how did they evaluate your credits?</p>
<p>@elyn & bottlecap: takes for the advice i was planning on only taking the.more general coursesed like econ,math,eng,bio things like that but nothing too specific like accounting or finance which.most likely wouldnt transfer over…after reading some of the posts on here the schools i had in mind like.upenn,emory,wustl are transfer friendly.
As much as.id like to transfer as a sophomore and make.the most of my college experience.ny HS record is pretty bad hence im better off transferring as a jr, right??</p>
<p>Eastafrobeauty, if your HS record is bad, then transferring as a junior would be better. They will care less about your ACT/SAT scores and HS GPA when you’re transferring as a junior. Make sure the classes you’re taking will transfer to more than one university you’re looking to transfer to just in case you do not get accepted. Best of luck! :)</p>
oh yeah, i’m also a URM if that helps at all…</p>