Do Cornell and University of Penn. Compare with the rest of the Ivys?

<p>Okay I'm sure everyone's really sick of all these threads talking about the Prestige and Rankings of the Ivy Leagues, but I really do wonder do any of you feel like Cornell and the University of Penn are on par with the rest of the Ivys ? Of course BOTH are amazing schools and anyone would be lucky to get accpeted, but do you feel that are on that same "level". I'm not going to lie, sometimes I forget that the University of Pennsylvania is even in the Ivy League because it sounds like a state school also I hear and read alot of comments on this board from people that say Cornell is the " lesser " Ivy. So I just wanted your thoughts on this. </p>

<p>P.S Really wasn't quite sure what thread to put this in.</p>

<p>Ask someone who went to Penn Wharton if they felt their business degree was on par with the “rest of the ivies”. Remember, U Penn =/= Penn State.</p>

<p>People call Cornell a “lesser” Ivy because it has a higher acceptance rate and lower SAT scores than other colleges, but it’s not. Cornell just doesn’t do any of that crap with rejecting overqualified candidates. Also, if you take into account Cornell’s SAT scores from A & S and Engineering [The two schools other ivies would have] and take out the “specific” schools, Cornell’s SAT scores are on par with theirs. Cornell’s other schools, like ILR, AAP and ALS are more concerned with whether you actually fit into their programs rather than incredibly high SAT scores [not that you can have crappy scores and still get in]. If you have a passion for studying squids, whether you get a 700 or 750 on the verbal part of your SAT doesn’t seem to matter as much - it’s whether you’re really into that that counts.</p>

<p>Just read the first two or three hundres responses on this thread and you should be good.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/495055-cornell-overrated-36.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/495055-cornell-overrated-36.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Hmm…I’d like to see you say that UPenn isn’t on the same level as the other Ivy Leagues schools and that it sounds like a state school in the face of someone who attended or is going to Wharton :smiley: </p>

<p>Yet again, Wharton students do tend to separate themselves from the rest of their school . . .</p>

<p>Back on topic, each ivy has their own specialty; for example, UPenn is the best ivy league school for business, and Cornell is the best ivy league school for engineering. (Just decided to name 1 for each, of course there are more things that these two schools are the best at.)</p>

<p>Even if you look at straight, crude rankings, Cornell and UPenn are always higher than Brown. UPenn’s usually ranked in the top 6 nowadays. So, right there you’ve pretty much answered your question without even having to get into the nuances that make each university almost impossible to compare to the others and objectively rank.</p>