<p>about how ppl think their college is ranked low compared to other ivies?</p>
<p>I currently attend a non-ivy school with a SERIOUS issue of students here thinking that they are better than the ivies (which clearly isnt true), and im really getting tired of the complex here...</p>
<p>looking to transfer into cornell, so i might ask here</p>
<p>Well, we definately have a lot of school spirit.</p>
<p>You won't find many people exclaiming "How could US news be so stupid, cornell should be number one". . .</p>
<p>But most people I know chose cornell because they thought it was the best school for them. I know a couple people that were accepted to Harvard and Cornell, and ended up here because they just liked the atmosphere better. </p>
<p>I do know a few people that had their sights set on "the higher ivies," and seem to be disappointed, but their reasoning is just plain stupid. Cornell's really selective too (even more so in CAS and Eng), and I don't see any difference besides in general perception of the school.</p>
<p>I think most people here view it as on the same level as the other ivies, but lower ivy is just a perception that kind of sticks because it's a larger school with an inherintly higher acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Yeah, so we're proud, but most people tend not to care how we rank. We know cornell is good. If Cornell's a good fit, then that's where you should go, you don't need rankings or a "higher ivy" reputation to dicatate the best personal college choice. At the same time we know it's not for everyone. . .and generally take criticism well. But if someone totally bashes cornell, things aren't gonna be pretty :)</p>
<p>not like you would think. Here, we dont really prioritize "ivy league order." After all, Cornell students are brilliant and we know that the ivy league is simply a sports league that our college is a part of. I consider HYP and the rest just another school in the ivy league. Also, we laugh at people who say a school doesn't deserve to be a part of the ivy league ... it's like saying "school X doesn't deserve to be in the Big East because it isn't prestigious enough!" Seems like people who are not in the ivy league like to prioritize it for some reason. </p>
<p>There's some level of general fustration with the US news rankings ... i mean seriously, WUSL is not better than Cornell (neither is Upenn and Duke better than Stanford and MIT, but that's another story). </p>
<p>in the end, no, i do not have a complex for other schools. I can't, the exact program I want to study is only at Cornell. In general, most students dont either (at least I have yet to meet one).</p>
<p>If there is a complex, for the most part, I haven't seen one.</p>
<p>I would say yes.</p>
<p>There was a major ruckus in 2004 with the Image Committee, whose purpose was to improve Cornell's image...feeling apparently that there is a significant difference between being 12th and 14th in the rankings...whatever.</p>
<p>While many students felt that the problem at Cornell was that the classes were too large, hurting the student/teacher ratio, the Image Committee decided that the way to improve Cornell's ranking was to (drumroll, please)...change the logo and make the website spiffier. Supposedly changing the logo would make the college more appealing and draw more applications. What's scarier is last year they actually DID draw more applications. People must actually care about these things...</p>
<p>"Supposedly changing the logo would make the college more appealing and draw more applications. What's scarier is last year they actually DID draw more applications. People must actually care about these things..."</p>
<p>Correlation does not mean cause-effect. the reason they had more applications because there are more students applying to colleges and because people are applying to more colleges to get a higher chance of getting into a selective college(which is negated because everyone is doing it). anyways the addition of a new logo was not a major factor in the increase in applications, even if it had some impact.</p>
<p>i think it was in large part due to the switch to the common application. The previous application was terribly long.</p>
<p>And the website was in need of an overhaul too. It was really bad.</p>
<p>I actually think image of a school plays a large part in how students pick which schools to apply to, as sad as it may be. For example, I think it has been proven that taller employees get more promotions. Maybe it is because of a positive first impression, which I think plays a great influence. Because there are so many great schools to choose from in the US, a bad first impression can justify students' decision (even subconsciously) to completely put it on their mental "don't apply" list.</p>
<p>whatever they did with the website worked for me.. especially with the application checklist.</p>
<p>"...positive first impression, which I think plays a great influence."</p>
<p>Thank you theslowclap for putting it in words. What major are you studying for BTW ?</p>
<p>The old website was amaturish, and the logo was actual a carbon copy of JC Penny. The same firm that designed JC Penny years ago was commis to do Cornell, and they just cloned it. Change was long overdue.
My question is how did it fly at Cornell when they first saw that logo knowing full well it was a copy of a discount department store emblem?</p>
<p>who knows. I agree with the image thing. The website now reflects a great institution. It's sad but true, but I have to say that when you see a sloppy or amaturish sign or website, you can't help but think "I guess that's the best they can do/afford/muster.</p>
<p>I assume this is talking about the undergraduate admissions website. I was really curious at the time as to why the old website was so bad! Those things matter a lot, if not conciously, then subconcsiouly (e.g. the tall people promotions).</p>
<p>What I have been seeing on the forums a lot is people wanting to transfer to Cornell because its and Ivy-League School. People are so superficial about that, bragging about what school they are in. Cornell is not a title it is a school. </p>
<p>I'm applying to ILR and it's because I believe Cornell fits my academic needs. For example, where is there an in-depth Labor Law and Collective Bargaining program that will help you build a foundation for law school? I think people need to start considering Cornell as-well as the other "Ivy League" schools as schools and stop considering them as awards on business cards.</p>
<p>agree with slowclap. i have never seen cornell's old website, but the new one is very organized and neat. Clean colors and an accessible website. It just looks fresh. I actually went by the other ivy league websites and all of them were nice except dartmouth. if you see dartmouth's website, it just looks uninviting, theres just text everywhere and not too many visual graphics. and yes, some websites can look great without being too sophisticated, but those that do have a good way of presenting information in a creative layout.</p>
<p>st_pete, to answer your previous question: I'm going to do premed for sure but I'm still debating whether to major in Biology (what I'm currently signed up for) or Psychology. One of the reasons I picked Cornell was because it has great programs all over the place, and this gives me room to explore.</p>