Do I count in AA????

<p>Some people claim to be Native Americans even though they're only 11/256 or whatever N.A (It's so weird; I can't believe they actually have cards.) Don't most applications say the "ethnicity that you most identify with" or something like that. If the OP JUST found out that they were spanish, I wouldn't exactly call that the ethnicity he/she most identifies with.</p>

<p>vu preuss very true...but do you blame me?</p>

<p>I have a related question. If i'm half-ukrainian and half-russian but consider myself a ukrainian (born there, citizen there ... duh), do i put White or Other and write Ukrainian?</p>

<p>I don't blame you oracle1. It's a tough decision to make, and it's ultimately up to you to make the decision because most colleges won't go through a verficiation process.</p>

<p>what if somebody, who isn't African American, checks off African American and then defends his claim by saying that "I believe all life on this planet originated from Africa, therefore we are all African Americans." what do you think would happen to that kid? lol</p>

<p>well on the app it's much less clear: they ask you which ethnic group you'd LIKE TO BE IDENTIFIED with...so technically, if you're a black person who wants to identified with asians, then i guess there is nothing stopping you. there's no requirement.</p>

<p>yea... i wish it was that if you are x percent this ethnicity you can put it. </p>

<p>it leaves too much gray area where you either feel guilty for putting one race or mad at yourself for not putting it.</p>

<p>The OP obviously shouldn't put Hispanic down...if he JUST found out</p>

<p>I've had it since school has started in like kindergarten on things. The application isn't much different. It is something obvious that I don't have to think about.</p>

<p>I definitely don't think you qualify as an URM. As a person who is really a member of an URM, it's always offensive to me when someone "discovers" that they part something that they feel can be used as an edge over others. I know people who "discover" that they a few drops Native American and want to use that to claim some minority status. The people who march, fought and died for the rights of those of us who truly have been disadvantaged (by legal segregation and other deliberate forms of discrimination), certainly didn't intend for people who have never known such discrimination to get an "edge" over others because of some one drop discovery.</p>

<p>Impw have u ever been discriminated against?</p>

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What about Portuguese, I mean I know this is really stretching it, but if you were like half...I mean, if Spain counts why can't Portugal?

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Probably because people from Portugal don't speak Spanish and have a culture distinct from Spain and its former colonial possessions?</p>

<p>The equivalent adjective for people from Portugal is lusitanic. So someome from, say, Brazil or East Timor, could be called lusitanic.</p>

<p>this thread is stupid, i wrote a page, then decided to not post it... </p>

<p>to sum it up: no, checking off the hispanic box would be highly inaccurate, as it obviously is just a ploy to gain an unfair advantage...</p>

<p>this is why 47% [sic] of national hispanic scholars are 1/4 hispanic... and the avg SAT for latinos is where it is... "closing the gap"? HAHAHAHA... no... it's all apart the game that is the college admission process...</p>

<p>Absolutely, I grew up in the segregated South and went to all Black schools with no swimming pool, golf courses, advance placement classes that were offered at the white high school. Yes, I know what REAL discrimination is - this isn't some game of "discovery".</p>

<p>i thought they ended segregation impw</p>

<p>he was born in 1950 you gringo</p>

<p>This Elmer for pointing this out. Oracle1 is obviously very young and clueless about the racial history of this country. Although "legal" segregation was ended in 1964 with the Civil Rights Bill, most public schools in major cities are segregated not by law but because of white flight over the years and the increasing importance of these private schools.</p>

<p>"thanks" not "this" - sorry</p>

<p>Elmer.... I appreciate your willingness to stoop to name calling.</p>

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I definitely don't think you qualify as an URM. As a person who is really a member of an URM, it's always offensive to me when someone "discovers" that they part something that they feel can be used as an edge over others. I know people who "discover" that they a few drops Native American and want to use that to claim some minority status.

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<p>I agree with you about that. But what about the minorities applying to college who aren't really disadvantaged? Say, the son of a black millionaire who's lived in beverly hills and attended the best schools his entire life. Obviously, it is sensible for him to put down that he is african american to gain an advantage, but is it really fair?</p>

<p>This is where the debate with need-blind admissions comes in (which many of the top schools promote).</p>