Do I have a chance?

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<p>So I know this should go in the “chance me” thread, but someone there told me that Brown doesn’t require SAT/ACT scores which is an obvious idiocy so I’m sticking with you guys… because you are probably more aware of what’s down at Brown. I’m a junior btdubs.</p>

<p>Objective:
* SAT I (breakdown): –
* ACT: 32
* SAT II: 740 (US H), 650 (Bio), also taking Lit,
* Weighted GPA: Freshman year (3.9 UW, 4.25 W), sophomore year (3.96 UW, 4.21 W), junior year, thus far (3.92 UW, 4.57 W)
* Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): –
* AP (place score in parenthesis): APUSH (5)
* Senior Year Course Load: AP Gov, AP Bio, AP French (or Latin I if there’s no AP French available next year), AP Lit, Adv. Journalism II, Pre-Calc, Mythology, AP Pysch, Sociology
* Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):
-Honorable Mention, Column, MIPA Awards
-Best Affirmative Award (debate camp)
-Sent something into the Scholastic Art and Writing awards… that was like two weeks ago though</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<pre><code>* Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): school newspaper (managing editor, it’s one of the top ten best school newspapers in the country), Debate Team (president, founder), French Club (president, founder), WILLOW (branch leader), YWFC (president), NHS, Strong Girls

  • Job/Work Experience: bagger at grocery store (20 hrs/week)
  • Volunteer/Community service: tutor at this place for low-income inner-city elemetary schoolers in reading and writing, tutor at HS, tutor at elementary school in math, do volunteer historical/archive research at my town’s historical society
  • Summer Activities: journalism camp at MSU since 8th grade, writing camp at Iowa (apparently they have a really good writing camp…), debate camp
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<p>Other</p>

<pre><code>* State (if domestic applicant): MI

  • Country (if international applicant): –
  • School Type: public
  • Ethnicity: White
  • Gender: Female
  • Income Bracket: <180k
  • Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): –
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<p>…not amazing, but do you guys have any advice? I still have a year to improve. THANK YOU SO MUCH!</p>

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<p>I’m a junior in HS too so I dont know how much my opinion matters, but your stats look pretty good, ACT is in the 50% range so its good enough. Awards and extra curriculars also look good. Your chances are definitely better than mine, I only have a 3.8 GPA :frowning: and Brown’s average is like a 3.9-4.0</p>

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<p>Ugh.</p>

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<li><p>You won’t get any responses you’re looking for from current students (which is mostly what this forum is for), so you may as well try somewhere else.</p></li>
<li><p>Yes GPA matters, yes ExtraCurrics matter, yes etc. etc., but a chance thread takes away the one thing that give you the BEST chance, and that is your humanity. A bunch of stats and scores and things you do don’t (usually, anyways) tell us who you ARE. A good application ANYWHERE will remedy this (for instance, I’m applying to internships: a big component of my cover letter is revealing to the employer me as a person, not just what I can do). An online forum can’t.</p></li>
<li><p>Brown already accepts the cream of the crop. We can’t really get any more creamy, because we DO attract (and I believe admit) a niche group of students. Not NECESSARILY the highest scoring, but the best for making our school what it is. We shouldn’t WANT the “highest-scoring” or “most-extracurricularly-excellent” students, and from what I’ve found, MOST people who I know who aren’t here, who applied to Brown and other peer schools, getting into say Princeton had only a moderate correlation on whether they got in here. Because we’re looking for something DIFFERENT than Princeton is, and we have enough applicants that we should be able to pretty much cherry-pick only those applicants with our most sought-after qualities (and yes, there is some of overlap in most-sought-after qualities… but not completely).</p></li>
<li><p>A chance thread is nothing more than an effort to either get people to give you a pat on the back or, if you’re masochistic, to shoot you down and deride you. I have no problem in people asking “what type of student does Brown attract, what type of activities/scores did people who got in have,” etc., but ALL of those have already been answered, or are EASILY viewable on sites like collegeboard (or now, cc). Asking for a chance here is highly unlikely to actually help you, it just gives us a hint that you don’t have confidence in your own capabilities. You can’t do anything to change your stats now, and the only chance you’ll ever have is if you apply (which is where the admiration SHOULD be coming from: getting in is just a chance reward for going through with an admirable effort).</p></li>
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<p>So just tell Brown who you are, and make yourself as likeable as possible is the way to go? This includes having scores in the 50-75% range.</p>

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<p>All my numbers are below the average statistics and my only extracurriculars are 2 sports w/o any leadership. No awards… But I was able to stand out with my essays and my grades still.
and basically, too much error from so many variables to accurately predict your chances</p>

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<p>Well! Don’t we know all, chsowlflax17?</p>