I got a 560 for sat history. Should I submit it? Personally, I’m thinking to just not to, as Penn no longer requires them. But, it does say on the website that they want all scores reported. Is there anyway they can check? I have also read that if I took 2 subject tests on the same day, that I can not only report one of the scores? Is that true as I want to report my 800 math 2, but not my 560 sat history.
They want your entire testing history, so I would send all of those in. Subject tests are a pretty small part of admissions too.
You are required to send all test scores, including SAT 2’s. They are able to contact the College Board to confirm, and if they find out that you didn’t, you could be in big trouble. But @TheWaffleMan149 is correct when he says that they play a minimal role in admissions.
That’s incorrect. See:
I still am unsure if Penn means the entire SAT/ACT testing history or the SAT/ACT testing history plus the SAT Subject Testing history. Has anyone called Penn to confirm this?
On their website, this is what I found:
Score Choice: Penn requires applicants to submit their entire testing history; we do not participate in Score Choice. If applicants have taken both the SAT and the ACT, they must submit their testing history from both exams.
I don’t see any comment about Subject Test history. This comment on Score Choice is specifically referring to the SAT and ACT.
So convince me otherwise that they require all Subject Test scores.
It is plus the subject tests. They want a record of every standardized test that you have taken. If you do not submit tests, and Penn contacts College Board to see if you submitted all of your tests, you will be in deep water
Where does it say that?
It doesn’t, but it is up to you to interpret “complete testing history.” I sent my subject tests in too; it is not worth the risk to me
It actually does. I will post the link shortly.
I called admissions. They said IF you take the subject tests, you must submit all scores. I agree that the online wording is unclear because it only talks about the SAT and ACT.
How many students are going to dig that deeply? I agree that the online wording in unclear.
My point is, if some students unknowingly don’t submit subject test scores, Penn is not going to “dig into College Board” to see if they didn’t submit tests and come after them with an iron fist. I don’t think Penn has that much time on their hands.
I think Penn, like every other school, goes on the honor system. Those students that are applying and interpret and understand that Penn is asking for all testing history including subject tests, well, they will send all their tests because they know it’s the right thing to do. For some students that don’t dig that deeply, they might miss this. Penn will not “punish” them.
For those on this forum who read these posts, you know what to do. There are plenty of applicants that don’t come here to CC, and may interpret what’s online as only needing to send ACT/SAT test history.
I visited Penn and I asked the admissions officer who presented the info. session. She said it runs on an “honor code”. I personally am going to send all scores, even though some of them are pretty awful, because when doing admissions decisions say they look at your highest.
I agree that it is on the honor system, but most people won’t send in terrible scores. My view is that they will occasionally check to see if SAT 2 scores are legit, even if they only do it for like 10 people. I personally took 4 subject tests (800 Math 2, 740 World History, 730 Math 1, and 720 Spanish). Now if you’re doing it truthfully and taking no chances, you submit all of them, which is what I did. This, however, won’t matter in the end because like @anon9362 said, they will consider your highest scores, so it likely won’t matter that I’m submitting my Math 1 score anyways because my Math 2 score (which is a harder test) is better. Just submit all your scores. The reason they do this is only because they want to know how many times you’ve taken the tests to see if you are being desperate.
Agree completely @jarrett211
An Admissions Officer, at a Get To Know Penn, was asked about taking the SAT more than once. His reply was that Penn expects that your score will be a 100 points higher the second time. But the increase in minimal after two tries. He recommended taking the tests no more than twice.