<p>Youre saying that your comments go against the politically correct to state the true correct, but they dont at all. Sure, a great number of immigrants have overcome challenges and taken advantage of opportunities provided to them in America, but that doesnt justify saying that Asians are prone to be hardworking. I would find that insulting. Likewise, just because there is a disproportionate number of African-Americans in poorer neighborhoods with high crime rates, it doesnt justify saying that African-Americans are clearly more drawn to a gangster lifestyle and athletic endeavors. Thats equally as offensive to me. Im not labeling you as a racist; Im just telling you that you come off as a jerk. A simple statement of I dont think people should use the race card would have been okay, but you had to go on and attack OP individually: You dont know his financial situation or the difficulty of his high school.</p>
<p>I envision a country where no one cares about the race of the man that is sitting at the counter of McDonalds in the morning and reading a newspaper or the race of the employee providing coffee and both are given the amount of respect they deserve as individuals.</p>
<p>Axeon, I like using this forum for debate, actually. It makes it more fun and simulates the opinions and issues are pertinent at Michigan. But anyways, you said something that interests me: this forum has a Hannity majority (Sean Hannitys career started in my city, by the way and Im a libertarian conservative who hates Sean Hannity). Is that true? I thought it was about 50-50, personally. Anyway, thats very interesting
And goshdarnit, I know, I hate when people just let racist comments fly by, too.</p>
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Remember the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1888 and Japanese internment during WWII??? Both these ethnic groups were discriminated against much like Blacks were
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<p>Maybe in 1888 they were "discriminated against much like blacks", but I don't rreally think we can compare a couple pieces of racist legislation to be equal treatment as 250 years of being treated as property. These other races were at least considered people.</p>
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African AMericans clearly have the opportunity to succeed in this country yet they are mroe drawn to the allure of the "gangster" lifestyle and to athletic endeavors instead.
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<p>Wow, can't believe this one was actually said. Yes, some African Americans are drawn to the gang life and athletics more than they are to education, but I see this as a condition of only urban blacks, and possibly not even the majority. I'm curious to know how many black friends you have and how many of them are drawn to this "gangster" lifestyle that all blacks seem to value above education.</p>
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However, the majority of the Black race in the US today lives below the poverty line when many of their counterpart races wh osuffered equally inhumane treatment are now occupying professions such as biochemistry and corporate law
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<p>If you're going to be racist (yes, I now believe that you are in fact racist after your last post. I was willing to forgive your first one, but your true racial sentiments came out this time.) at least get your facts right. The Census Bureau reported in 2003 that below a quarter of African Americans live below the poverty line. Maybe if you had a more realistic view of African Amemricans based on relevant statistics you may not make all these terrible judgments. I'm also sure the number of blacks pursuing biochemistry and corporate law at Michigan rivals the number involved in athletics.</p>
<p>I stopped after two paragraphs out of fear of intaking too much bigoted opinion in one day.</p>
<p>Im sorry but am i the only one that finds the comment by the girl next door about AA "giving the african americans the incentive for being lazy" racist....wth?!?! Blacks arent lazy to begin with!! thats a bad assumption! Im not even black and i find it racist and prejudice!</p>
<p>I found it racist, but thought people had already implied it without wording it word for word. And sigh...I know you didn't mean it this way, but you just kind of said all blacks aren't lazy and I'm sure there are some lazy blacks in this world, as there are lots of lazy people in this world...</p>
<p>I'm deeply saddened that all of you can't see the truth for what it really is. I'm not defending slavery as an institution, as it is DESPICABLE, but since a majority of the slaves were adequately fed and clothed I am going to argue that the alternative to slavery at the time(dying of famine and disease in Africa) was far worse. The struggle for black civil rights for the past 200 years was a very positive development in our country for various reasons including that it helped secure in place the same ideals of freedom and equality that our forefathers installed in to place. However, African Americans have arguably squandered many of the opportunities that they have been fortunately been presented with after the brave protests instigated by Rosa Parks and MLK Jr. </p>
<p>As a resident of the same country(the US), I am left to wonder and desperately want to ask a Black person living in the ghetto, "Your ancestors led this great country into a bloody Civil War and launched many race riots in American cities so you can have the chance to go to school and get a decent education, so then why are you selling drugs/joining gangs/loitering on the streets/working at fast-food restaurants after dropping out of high school???" If you believe that my description of black people in the previous sentence is merely a generalization and not a maxim for the majority of the African American race, then you are sadly mistaken.</p>
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The argument over whether the right to be treated as a free person supercedes the ability of an individual to live a humane existence is a debate for another time but I must say that argument doesn't hold much clout. Chinese workers were whipped just like slaves were and they toiled hor hours endlessly on building railroads, not just on farming like Black slaves, for very little to no pay. Even if my parallel examples to the history of African American treatment in the US aren't entirely accurate, they are still pretty damn close.</p>
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Umm, I don't think you've been around African Americans a lot if you sincerely believe that. In fact, all of the Black people I know at my school besides 3(in a pool of thirty or so) are drawn much more to the "gangster" lifestyle than the allure of education. This is clearly the majority attitude for Blacks in the US and not a minority as nearly every sociological statistic on American demographics points to my reasoning. I can cite them later if you wish.</p>
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<p>I stopped after two paragraphs out of fear of intaking too much bigoted opinion in one day.
Yes, perhaps I am racist to an extent but that is better than being downright ignorant in my honest opinion. Also, your Census Bureau statistic means little other than about 75% of African Americans are not living in a state of vagrancy and financial ruin, something certainly not worth being proud of at any extent. That doesn't exactly mean that the remaining 75% are so are living in high-scale neightborhoods and driving Porsches my mistaken friend. I'm not sure of the exact numbers but I am willing to bet that approximately 4/5 of the African Americans in the US do earn less than the average annual income in this country however.</p>
<p>Umm also, so you're saying that maybe 100 Blacks or so at Michigan are then pursuing Biochemsitry and Corporate Law haha. So, I suppose that their commendable educational endeavors make up for the remaining general flaws of 90% of the African American race??? Let's get real man, I'm not talking about Condelezza Rice or Colin Powell here, I'm discussing the guy who's going to appear on the front headlines of the Ann Arbor newspaper tomorrow for breaking into a lower-class neighborhood house and shooting the family that lives inside.</p>
<p>It's good that you stopped reading after the first 2 paragraphs childbears17 so you managed to avoid embarassing and making a mockery of yourself any further than you already have.</p>
<p>"I'm not defending slavery as an institution, as it is DESPICABLE, but since a majority of the slaves were adequately fed and clothed I am going to argue that the alternative to slavery at the time(dying of famine and disease in Africa) was far worse."</p>
<p>Oh my god. Where are you getting this **** from? You sound like you're describing a pet, not a RACE OF HUMAN BEINGS.</p>
<p>Maybe you should try watching Roots, or reading some of Phillis Wheatley's poetry, or... a history book...</p>
<p>Well gurl<em>next</em>door, I'm sure they'd say you have nothing substantial to add to this thread so let's not call anybody's posts worthless now lest you be judged as well. I really think all of your opinions are just coming from ignorance. For example, have you ever actually been to Africa or know anyone from Africa? I have many African (not just African-American) friends at Michigan and we talk about Africa all the time. It's not just a big mass of disease and famine where everyone is fated to a nasty death. Yes there is considerable disease and famine and life expectancy is considerably shorter, but many Africans are vibrant, full of life, and just absolutely enjoy living. To say that disturbing this joyful yet short lifestyle in order for them to become slaves is a benefit to them really shows how little you know of African culture. I'm also not sure we can take you seriously on any issue regarding African American issues either seeing as your opinions are based on a mere thirty people from your high school (which I presume you don't know well either, based on the amount of knowledge you are requiring for yourself to make judgments on other people) and what you see on TV. I'm pretty involved with the African American community on campus and when I go home I frequent predominantly black areas of Chicago, and I can say for certain that I haven't met any African Americans at Michigan that are interested in the "gangster" lifestyle, and that the majority of blacks I talk to in Chicago do not glamorize the gang lifestyle over education but rather often see it as the only way to survive. For many inner-city African Americans, even if they excel in school, they will not have the money or the credentials to get into a university capable of taking them out of their neighborhood, and they often need to help out their family with finances, which can't wait until college is over. Hopefully you see a bit more of it now</p>
<p>As an african american, gurl_next...whatever, I find your comments grossly misinformed, inaccurate, and at times -- funny. You admitted being a racist...seriously, that nulls out any credibility you PERSONALLY may have had. As for your argument, it's bogus. What about the prominent Afrcan American community in Florida that was burned down by your jealous and racist KKK friends?? </p>
<p>An ignorant person such as yourself is undoubtedly unqualified to make such sweeping generalizations. Your entire argument rests on your racist self-study of about....30 blacks. 30. Not only that, but you are a self-admitted racist, which means your bogus perceptions are biased.
Unsurprisingly, the Midwest (where this troll is from) is one of the last remaining strongholds for the KKK. I suppose you are familiar with these areas, because you reek of hate-group influence. Perhaps you are a member?</p>
<p>If you are white, then allow me to inform you that African Americans are not the only benefactors of AA. Whites, as well, receive affirmative action in that Asians typically exhibit the highest testing scores, grades, etc. For a college to accept a white applicant over an Asian sounds a lot like......Affirmative Action? could it be?
So, Ms. Racist, how do you explain a character such as myself? since I am black, as you say, I must also be a criminal, right? Since my ancestors were emancipated, I am useless to America, and only contribute to the crime rate, correct?</p>
<p>Fortunately, I do not take offense at your racist comments. Nope.
Because, thankfully, all you can do is talk, lol. Your racist sentiment fails to affect the larger census of the American population, and you yourself(as is every racist) are powerless to impose your views physically. The best schools in america, whether you like it or not, RECOGNIZE Affirmative Action, and that's just that.</p>
<p>To every other African American that read this troll's comments, do not be offended. Let the troll huff and puff:D</p>
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"I want to envision a country where it is the African American that is sitting at the counter of McDonalds in the morning and reading a newspaper, while a newly-arrived immigrant provides the fresh brewed coffee."</p>
<p>^^I do that every morning. Amen to mcdonald's:D</p>
<p>Shut up GUrL@112412=412...whatever. I can tell by the style of your name that you're immature. Go somewhere else with that ****. I really hope u don't go to umich with me. Then again you might add to the school's diversity factor as the "ignorant, working, middleclass" student. With strong ancient/ Christian morals.</p>
<p>Shut up GUrL@112412=412...whatever. I can tell by the style of your name that you're immature. Go somewhere else with that ****. I really hope u don't go to umich with me. Then again you might add to the school's diversity factor as the "ignorant, working, middleclass" student. With strong ancient/ Christian morals.</p>
<p>I was just making a joke...haha. Well I guess u don't find it funny. And what I meant is that she has the old pilgrim ideals.</p>